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Evenin’ Guys!

The ending of this day has turned out far better than the start. The rains have ended, the temps have fallen, and it feels a bit more like the season we are in.

Some observations for today:

A regular and a member of our Permanent Stools, who we have not seen for a couple or more days, has Posted elsewhere and on the same Forum as our thread! The issue isn’t Posting elsewhere, it’s not Posting here at all. What’s that all about [?]

A customer wonders aloud what it is I want him to do with regard to Posting. My thoughts are quite elementary when it comes to support for this bar ‘n grill – there are 204 pages of information – it got there through the willingness of many and the dedication of others to keep things moving forward. What do I want [?] Nothing more than support for the idea that we are NOT like the other threads and will NOT become like them. Mine is not to chase anyone away, unless those individuals show reason – then the option I have is to spend less time with those folks and more time with the ones who care. Simple approach, I’d say.

A reminder: We are CLOSED on NEW YEAR’s DaY with no Sunday Pix Posting until the following week – January 8th.

To the acknowledgments:

jlampke John
Posted: 28 Dec 2005, 14:49:58

Back again! [tup] Not so difficult to find the words sometimes as it is to find the time. Appreciate your business!

The round is appreciated – Boris rang that bell hours ago – nearly woke everyone up! [swg] Buffalo burgers – nope. We feature one thing on our lunch menu all week- the best sandwiches one can find in the County. Served on the freshest breads from The Mentor Village Bakery we use only the best cuts of lunch meats for our hero, submarine, grinder and hoagie sandwiches. The pickles from the barrel over there are absolutely “crunchy” and hard to

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Hi Tom, I think just a “night cap” of Blackberry Brandy “straight up, please.” I normally would’ve just taken a peek since my last post and after seeing only one post, “call it a day.” “Staff Party,” let’s see…how’s 'bout just Rob, yourslef, Nick and me play the gals in a double game of Monopoly? There are many other games, of course, but my sense of proper deportment preculde any mention of them.[:O]

Yes, all preparations on the management side for CM3’s Birthday Bash on the 6th are under way as we speak. Due to the many folks still deluding themselves’ with previously made preposterous New Years resolutions, perhaps we should remain on the conservative side. Say, something along the lines of a Las Vegas Matinee at “Our” Place? As I recall, Vito still has all the gaming paraphernalia available at a moments notice. The gals, have their [ahem] abreviated costumes from past “cake parties,” and the News Year’s Eve decending “Electric Ball” will already be in place. As always, Rob will have the local Constbulary involved with the help of Helga, Hilda and Leon “in position” for security. I’m sure [C=:-)] Nick will, no doubt, have “finger foods” and Canopes planned worthy of our resident “Bard.” So, with these thoughts in mind, all suggestions from our esteemed Members will be welcomed for further consideration.

Okay, this has been a casual visit and beginning January 2nd, I’ll try to bring more “on topic” contributions to the table. Let’s look forward to some innovative new horizons for 2006 at “Our” Place. I’m thinking of insintives for making member’s “interaction” more rewarding and motivated than previously experienced. That is, without falling into the personal “prattle” which is better left to other “gossip” venues found all over these Forums. Maybe a gratuitous, “chit” toward a honorary “Title” at the end of each month for each “inclusive” post the indivdual submits would work? The person with the greater amount of ‘chits’ acquire

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Just a word before turning over the bar to Leon the Night Man and then checking out … thanx for the Post, Manager Ted! [tup]

Lots to think about and of course, a rousing four-handed game always fits the bill! [swg]
I have a joke about that, which will be more appropriate for our Rendezvous in Toronto! [swg]

Honorary titles, eh [?] Perhaps two should be in order, one for the incentive and the other for knotting the knickers! Some guys surely need the latter. But then again, I’ve always been “bad cop” - even in my career. A good fit. I’ll give it some thought - but not this nite … [zzz] Long day, lots of Posts and it’s time for something else.

Staff party with the Gals of “Our” Place along with the cast of characters ranging from Cindy to Tex the Armadillo and now I see, Hilda 'n Helga have become part of the “family.” Why not! [?] [swg]

Thanx for the nite cap visit. [tup] But what, no drink for me [?]

Until the 'morrow …

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

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Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please and I’ll add a couple of quarters to the Coal Scuttle.

A good day at the bar.

Thanks JOHN for the USNS info and the New Year wishes[tup].

ROB Good to see you after Christmas and thanks for the encore well worth reading again. Did you manage to see the article in the January issue of TRAINS mag on the demise of the Minneapolis-St Paul Streetcars [?].A very well written article.

TED Great posts[tup]. I was wondering if you knew where the tradition of the lowering of a ball at midnight on New Years Eve originated [?].In England at parties and pubs etc. they generally play the chimes of Big-Ben as it strikes midnight.

TOM Thanks for the Fallen Flag encore and the link to the film[tup]. Does the Mentor Village have a cinema[?].Perhaps we could get them to play Classic movies with classic trains in them and get them to advertise in the Gazette. There were quite a few films with railways in them in the U.K. One of the most well known was the Ealing Studios film “The Titlfield Thunderbolt” about local residents taking over and running a branch line in the 1950s. It featured the mid 19th century 0-4-0 loco LION.
Its a shame I shall miss the next Gazette straight off the press but I will catch it as soon as I can.

I,ll have a Bathams as a nightcap then [zzz] PETE.

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Good evening Tom I see that you have snuck in. I’ll have a Keith’s with you if you have some time to put up yer feet. Keep an eye open for an email,I’m slowley hatching a thought or two for the next version of the gazzette.

Nice to see awk’s tale seeing the light of day again BTW [tup]

John Good to see you back again,thanks for the clarifivcation on the ship terminology,something I did not know,mind you Canadian Naval tradition and history( yes we do have one ) has always been my thing. Hopefully you have a good new years while you plod back and forth on the Pacific.

Ted ouch that example of the before and after on a wooden car is exactly why the steel beast finally becmae dominent. Too many times one see’s haw wooden cars ( regular passenger and interurban ) could telescope and collapse under the preassures of a major impact.I’m glad that yopu were able to enjoy the second time around on the safety cars, I think you may have been ill or dodging a storm when I had first posted it.

Backing with any pole is dangerous in that you cannot do full speed in reverse, they are flexible just not that flexible if you know what I mean.easier to do with a slider shoe as oposed to an old trolley wheel as well( less friction ) and less sparks. I had not heard or ever seen the hose clearing gizmo you speak of. Perhaps a KC thing only. I remeber a recent 5 alarm fore on Queen street in Toronto had the streecars halted till it was out. Some due to the fact that Toronto Police had the street blocked but possibly for lack of said track gizmo.

Back shortly with another encore. Rob

PS
Pete Hi how are you? Actually I have not read the article, I don’t buy trains. However if they have the article online I will puruse it, thank you [tup] I had fixed some of the worst spelling mistakes on that reroll of the juice,glad you enjoyedhelping number 2.

Tom I hadn’t thought about bringing any board games to To

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ENCORE of the First Classic Steam Post, as originaally seen on page 159

[quote]
QUOTE: Originally posted by trolleyboy

I thought that I would throw a curve ball at you gentlemen tonight. Instead of a classic juice, I will entertain you with an excerpt of… Classic CNR Steam

I will borrow some explinations from Ian Wilson’s Steam at Allandale for the technical help. [tup]

So Classic CNR Steam #1 The Huntsville Subdivision

The Huntsville subdivision ran ( still runs ) through central Ontario in the Muskoka lakes district. It is a 111 mile subdivision running from Huntsville through to it’s Northern terminus of North Bay.And down to it’s southern terminus of Gravenhurst.

The local switching was done three times a week.These originated in North Bay on mon, wed, and fri.laying over in South River, and returning on alternate days.The Southern trains also operated three days a week starting at South River to Gravenhurst same three days a week will the layover at scotia ontario, and returning on alternate days.

The Huntsville switcher This served the Acme planning mills,Cities service oil spur,McColl Frontenac coal shed,( train coal and hating coal ) Supertest/sun oils petrolium spur,the stations frieght shed for lcl service,Anglo-Canadian leather’s two spurs,Forest basket co( gone in 1957 ) and The Muskoka Wood products spur ( charcol plant )

Usually this train was called at 5:15or 5:45 am and was powered by ten wheelers or consolidation type locomotives.

Gravenhurst-South River way frieghts served
South falls-team track
Bracebridge-Sheir lumber,Anglo_Can leather’s coal bin spur,(leather co gone in 1951 ) Imperial oil’s spur,Northern planning mill ( two sidings) the Bracebridge station’s team track and freight shed (

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Got here at 11 PM posted question was posted at 3 am. was able to read approx 31 pages before posting. Only took 4 hrs. is it me or the site. Sorry I missed last call or is this a private club. I’ll try to do better next time as I read original post and went backwards till I fell asleap.

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Back again Leon for one last Keith’s a round for any of the other takers at this moment as well.[tup][:D] Now for something a bit different.

The Classic Index as posted by Trolleyboy

Classic Juice

Classic Juice #1 the L&PS London and Port Stanley RY page#116
Classic Juice #2 the NS&T Niagara St Catharines and Toronto RY page #123
Classic Juice #3 the MS&C Montreal and Southern Counties RY page# 131
Classic Juice #4 the B&H Brantford and Hamilton RY page# 134
Classic Juice #5 the B&WSR Berlin and Waterloo Street Railway page#142
Classic Juice #6 the Nearside Car page#146
Classic Juice #7 the Peter Witt Story page#148
Classic Juice #8 the PCC page#157
Classic Juice #9 the N&C Nippissing Central RY page#140
Classic Juice #10 the safety car page#162
Classic Juice #11 the CNR Electric lines pg 163
Classic Juice # 12 the TCR Toronto Civic Railway page#180
Classic Juice # 13 Toronto Civic Cars page#180

Classic CNR Steam

Classic Steam #1 Huntsville sub page#159
Classic Steam #2 Alliston sub page#163
Classic steam #3 Strathroy sub page#165
Classic steam #4 Niagara Falls Passenger Trains page#170
Classic Steam #5 Passenger Trains on Brampton and Thorndale subs page#170
Classic Steam #6 The roustabout page#176
Classic steam #7 Passenger Trains in Palmerston page#182
Classic steam #8 southern Ontario railmap page# 183
Classic steam #9 Speacial Trains on the Niagara Frontier page#191
Classic Steam #10 Speacial Trains on the Niagara Frontier Pt 2 page#191
Classic Steam #11 Passenger train Profiles page#198
Classic Steam #12 Passenger Train Profiles Pt 2 page#198

Enjoy Rob

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What’s that noise (again) [?] Well, well, some Posts to read from our late night visitors! [tup]

pwolfe Pete Posted: 28 Dec 2005, 22:51:33

You must be referring to the old Mentor Village Emporium which is undergoing renovation for the Grand Re-Opening in January. A theatre of elegance and grace, where smoking used to be permitted in the balcony, along with all sorts of other activities while the flick was flickering! [swg] So, in answer to your inquiry, yes - we do have a movie theatre! Stand by for the listings of films to come. [swg][tup]

Thanx for the contribution to the Coal Scuttle! [tup]

Yes, it has been a grand day here at the bar 'n grill and it would appear that this week has fooled me from the get-go. With just a couple of days left, we’ll still hang on to the theme for the week, though. Gives a chance to dust off some of those great nostalgia, fallen flags and other special Posts for an ENCORE! run. [tup]

Check out this URL regarding the lowering of the ball on New Years Eve in Times Square, New York City: http://www.timessquarenyc.org/nye/nye_history.html

Don’t fret regarding the Mentor Village Gazette’s next edition, it will be here for you upon your return from England! [tup]

By the by - why not try to getaway just a half hour earlier on Friday - that way you can have time to check out the Can-Am trainroom before we head off to the airport [?] A thought.

trolleyboy Rob Posted: 28 Dec 2005, 22:58:10

I see you are back in the saddle, so to speak! [swg] Three Posts and it’s just like old times! [tup]

Board games at our Rendezvous in Toronto[?] Hmmmmmmmm. Wasn’t quite what I had in mind, but whatever floats your boat, Mate! [swg]

Nice ENCORE! on the

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THURSDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

We open at 6 AM all time zones. (Don’t ask how we do that!) [swg]

Good Morning! Join us in a hot cup of freshly brewed coffee, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery and our specially prepared breakfasts! [tup] [swg]

ENCORE! Daily Wisdom:

A loud mouth and a shallow brain go well together.

Info for the Day:

(1) Reminders:

Birthday Bash for CM3 set for Friday, January 6th!

This week the focus will be on ENCORE! pieces. Enjoy! For barndad Doug – passengerfan Al and trolleyboy Rob recommend you forego your “special” Posts until January 2nd. But, by all means dig out an ENCORE! or three! [tup]

The next Sunday Photo Posting Day! is January 8th.

The name for the Pickled Pig’s Feet Jar holding the quarters for our Juke, Herr Wurlitzer is now: Coal Scuttle – a submission by trolleyboy Rob! [swg]

(2) The Top 15 Contributors to ”Our” Place through Page 200: (figures in brackets denote number at Page 100)

1st . . . . Theodorebear Ted 363 [199] (includes previous cyb

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. . . . . . . . . Posted several times on past pages . . . . . . . .

This is a rundown of what ”Our” Place is all about. It is Posted simply to create a central URL for reference purposes later on as new customers enter our cyber bar ‘n grill. (We don’t’ use the term “Newbies” ‘round here!)

I recognize that this is a LONG list to read – but if you want to know about us without having to research all of the previous pages, this is a good compilation to go by. [tup]

  1. This is a cyber bar ‘n grill for adults who appreciate Classic Trains – real and model – and enjoy a bit of humor while discussing them.

  2. This thread was started as an alternative to those where hit ‘n run postings are the norm. Here, we strive to be inclusive with all who participate as regulars. There will be those who stop by to check us out and they will receive an appropriate [#welcome] from the Proprietor along with encouragement to join us. Keep in mind, this is not the typical thread seen elsewhere. One has to earn a regular place at this bar.

  3. To be a regular all one needs to remember is to participate and contribute to the topic on a regular basis.

  4. We have a Birthday Watch List for all regulars. To sign up, just provide your birth date (month-date-year). We’ll schedule a cyber Birthday Bash for you on the day of your choice.

  5. We have an Order of the Stools Club whereby regular customers of the bar receive recognition as either permanent or reserved holders of ”Our” Place bar stools.

  6. We feature SUMMARIES of postings by our customers. They are provided to help with catching up on periods of absence. They also contain relevant information at the beginning for all cu

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rrandb (none) Posted: 28 Dec 2005, 23:13:10

Hate to “waste” a welcome, for the overwhelming majority of times that we have visitors with hardly anything at all in their Profiles do we see repeat visits. But here goes! [#welcome] Aboard and hope you enjoy this adult bar 'n grill. [tup] Must be of legal age to drink and sit at this bar.

If you have checked us out by reading all of page one and then scrolled through the last ten or so, you should have a good idea of how this place operates and what we are all about. The answer to your question surely should be evident.

As a new customer, the first drink is on the house! Enjoy. We have a couple of major rules that are followed 'round here: (1) Always greet the bartender upon entering -and- (2) Always order a drink and/or food on each visit.

There are protocals to follow as well, but I’m tired - it’s late - and it’s best you figure out the rest. We are an inclusive thread with acknowledgments made to one another. Hit 'n run Postings from anyone, regardless of how long they have been associated with us will be ignored. Take it somewhere else - unwelcome here. [tdn]

We engage in adult banter at the bar and cater to those with the knowledge and willingness to discuss Classic Trains - real and model - while having some fun doing it.

The ONLY way you will know what’s going on 'round here is to read the SUMMARIES and stay up on the pages. Otherwise, you will find yourself way behind and perhaps have no one to talk to!

Okay [?] Hope to see you again, and perhaps get a “name” and some personal info about you and your interests relating to what we do here.

That’s it for me, Gents! [zzz]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[/quote]
(1)I am old enough you wouldn’t card me( 2)Whats in my profile is exactly what I want it to be. ( 3)My name is richard but you may use my initials RR (4) I work th

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Good Morning you oily boids what catches da woims.[#oops] I thought I was back in Times Square for a moment.[(-D] Tom, just as cuppa Joe anna “lead sinker” with cream cheese, please. Pete, the URL from Tom’s post says it all on the Times Square electric Ball. Over the years, the tradition has grown to what has become an audience of a billion people viewing it.[:O] Personally, I think Big Ben’s tolling makes more sense.[^] Hey Rob, great to have those traction Encores back again. I don’t think KCity would be the only city lines with the “bridge” available. However, It may have proven to be an impracticle solution, not sure. I saw it used only once. “Seems Like Old Times” (Arthur Godfrey’s theme song 1940’s and ‘50s’ radio and T.V.).

Is it only me or has anyone else noticed a distinct echo effect in the bar lately?[swg] Seriously, I need to get the car serviced today and run more errands around town. No time to catch a flick at the old/new M.V. Emporium Theatre.[V] Maybe they will feature the Burt Lancaster flick “The Train,” someday. Well Boris, give old 101 a ring, the round is on me this morning. FWOP, Gadfrey, this time it’s the mop he uses.[:(!] Happy rails folks.

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Good Morning!

A couple of responses are in order before we set about our day here at “Our” Place:

rrandb Richard (RR) (none) Posted: 28 Dec 2005, 23:13:10

As you may have already determined, those of us at this bar 'n grill who constitute the “regulars” are comfortable with one another to where we use first names. Thanx for yours. We respect each patron’s desire for privacy. However, given that the majority of our “profiles” are open for inspection by one and all, it does seem a bit skewed. Our Birthday Watch List! reveals the ages of the majority of our customers, so that “carding” is unnecessary. We insist on adult patronage in that what we do and say 'round here is geared more for experience than not.

Highly recommend you take advantage of the info provided on this page, if for no other reason than to acquaint you with the way things are done 'round here. Again, good to have another friendly face at the bar. Although your hours may not be at all conducive to the interaction we seek, nor will you find the place open much after mid-night or 1 AM.

I will Post a couple of other “features” that are designed to help you get up to speed … watch for 'em!

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 29 Dec 2005, 08:09:18

That’s quite a URL on the Times Square Ball and it brings back memories from several galas past. I never really enjoyed the mob scene, but the parties at the hotels were great! Unfortunately, in those days, I was simply a poor sailor lad, making a paltry sum.

The Mentor Village Emporium will celebrate it’s Grand re-opening with a DOUBLE FEATURE and a stage show in between! I have the movies pre-selected for the next several months, but recommendations are always welcome! Perhaps you can help us with some “acts” and of course an orchestra for this event. We are looking for a January 9th re-opening! [tup]

Later!

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. . . . . . . . . . Previously posted several times . . . . . . . . . . .

The Cast of Characters from ”Our” Place

siberianmo Tom is the Proprietor and head bartender. [4:-)][oX)]

Theodorebear Ted is the Manager.

nickinwestwales Nick is Chief Chef. [C=:-)]

trolleyboy Rob is the Bar Chandler.

Boris is - well, he’s Boris who works in the kitchen and anywhere else needed. He was hired by Nick, Chief Chef and is assistant cook. He’s not too hard to spot, as Boris is not of this world. Kinda difficult to maintain eye contact with him. He’s playful and unaware of his strength. We do not permit him to tend bar – however, he loves to ring the bell when a round is purchased.

Tex the Armadillo is Boris’ pet!

Awk the Parrot is Tom’s pet!

Leon the Night Man is Tom’s relief behind the bar around 9 PM or so, Central Time. He closes up. He’s easily recognized by his rather large size, enormous hands, and shiny brand new Jump Boots. Leon also serves as Doorman and Bouncer for special events and may be seen in a tuxedo – with Jump Boots of course.

Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary and his earstwhile friend and companion Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator make up the security force ‘round here.

The Gals of “Our Place” are:</

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Good Morning!

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Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads: (previously Posted on page 129)

Chicago, Burlington & Quincy (CB&Q) Burlington Route

Headquarters: Chicago, IL

Mileage:

1950: 11,000 (includes subsidiaries, Fort Worth & Denver and Colorado & Southern)

Locomotives in 1963:

Steam: 10 Diesel: 691

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 41,099 Passenger cars: 925

Principal lines in 1950:

Aurora, IL-Minneapolis, MN via Rochelle, IL
Chicago-Omaha-Denver via Lincoln, NE
Galesburg, IL-Kansas City & St. Joseph, MO via Quincy, IL
Savanna & Rock Island, IL-Paducah, KY
Burlington, IA-St. Louis via Quincy
Omaha-Kansas City via St. Joseph
Napier, MO (St. Joseph)-Oxford,NE
Table Rock, NE-Billings, MT via Lincoln
Billings-Galveston, TX via Thermopolis & Cheyenne, WY & Denver
Ashland, NE-Sioux City, IA
Galesburg-Peoria, IL
Kansas City-St. Louis (trackage rights on GM&) Kansas City-Mexico, MO)

Passenger trains of note:

Afternoon Zephyr (Chicago-Twin Cities)
Ak-Sar-Ben Zephyr (Chicago-Lincoln)
American Royal Zephyr (Chicago-Kansas City)
Black Hawk (Chicago-Twin Cities
California Zephyr (Chicago-Oakland, CA; jointly operated with D&RGW and WP)
Denver Zephyr (Chicago-Denver-Colorado Springs
Empire Builder (Chicago-Seattle & Portland, jointly operated with GN and SP&S)
Exposition Flyer (Chicago-Oakland; jointly operated with DR&GW and WP; replaced by Calif

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HAPPY 59th BIRTHDAY to coalminer3 CM3!

Birthday Bash scheduled for the morning and afternoon of January 6th (Friday)!

Enjoy your day and hope to see ya back at the bar real soon!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

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G’day!

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Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads: (previously Posted on page 130)
Soo Line

Headquarters: Minneapolis, MN

Mileage:

1954: 3,159
1961 (before 1985 acquisition of Milwaukee Road): 4,719

Locomotives in 1954:

Steam: 47
Diesel: 76

Rolling stock in 1954:

Freight cars: 8,035
Passenger cars: 128

Principal routes (w/Wisconsin Central) in 1954:

Chicago-Minneapolis/St. Paul
Minneapolis-Portal, ND
Minneapolis-Sault Ste. Marie, MI
Dresser, WI-Duluth, MN
Owen, WI-Duluth, MN
Glenwood-Noyes, MN

Passenger trains of note:

Atlantic Limited (Minneapolis-Boston, with CP and B&M east of Sault Ste. Marie)
Copper Country Limited (Chicago-Calumet, MI with CMStP&P Chicago-Champion, MI, thence DSS&A/Soo to Calumet)
Duluth-Superior Limited (Minneapolis-Duluth)
Laker (Chicago-Duluth & Minneapolis &Ashland, WI; rerouted to Superior, WI from Duluth in 1961)
Mountaineer (St. Paul-Vancouver, BC, with CP from Portal to Vancouver)
Soo Dominion (St. Paul-Vancouver with CP from Portal to Vancouver)
Winnipeger (St. Paul-Winnipeg, MB, with CP from Noyes to Winnipeg)

Enjoy (again)! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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G’day!

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Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads: (previously Posted on page 133)

Chicago & Northwestern (C&NW)

Headquarters: Chicago, IL

Mileage:-

1950 – 9,693
1955 – 5,000

Locomotives in 1963: Diesel – 744

Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars – 41.383 Passenger cars – 447

Principal lines in 1950:

Chicago-Fremont & Omaha, NE
Fremont-Lander, WY
Nelson, IL-Madison, Il (St. Louis)
Chicago-Minneapolis, MN via Madison & Wyeville, WI
Milwaukee-Rapid City, SD via Wyeville, WI & Mankato, MN
Eau Claire, WI-Duluth,MN
Chicago-Milwaukee via Kenosha, WI
Chicago-Milwaukee via Bain, WI
Milwaukee-Green Bay via Fond du Lac, WI
Green Bay-Ashland, WI via Rhinelander
Green Bay-Ishpeming, MI
Powers, MI-Hurley, WI
Minneapolis & St. Paul-Omaha via Mankato
Lake Crystal (Mankato)-Des Moines, IA

Passenger trains of note:

Ashland Limited (Chicago-Green Bay-Ashland)
Dakota “400” (Chicago-Madison-Huron, SD)
Duluth-Superior Limited (Chicago-Madison-Duluth)
Flambeau “400” (Chicago-Green Bay-Ashland)
Kate Shelly “400” (Chicago-Boone, IA)
North Western Limited (Chicago-St. Paul-Minneapolis)
Peninsula “400” (Chicago-Green Bay-Ishpeming)
Shoreland “400” (Chicago-Milwaukee-Green Bay)
Twin Cities “400”(Chicago-St. Paul-Minneapolis)
Valley “400” (Chicago-Green Bay-Menominee, MI)

Of note: C&NW also was a forwarder for UP’s streamliners and

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11/14/1954 After some thought I am comfortable posting bio here. Still reluctant to add to bio open to 200,000 total strangers. I have been menber since 2001 but from my posting count it is apparent I rarely post without something to say. As a professional stagehand my hours can be from 6AM to 3AM but this not 365/7. I will post when I can. I am sure our paths will cross. Thanks for time and patience. By the level, by the square, by the all seeing eye, you will not have wasted your welcome. Nuff said.ENJOY