Tom the kitchen car was donated by Sandia labs, as was the command car, we also have a Caboose
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/aaq
But it is compleatly gutted in side, altho we have a set of new rollerbreing trucks for it.
Gunns
Morning’ Rob - Help yourself to the goodies; all fresh from The Mentor Village Bakery … [tup][;)]
Email received and replied to … Thanx!
Should you decide to come to the states one day, plan on taking the non-stop to St. Louis with Air Canada. From here you can head anywhere else you’d like … [:D] Aside from the Can-Am trainroom, HO, O and S layouts [swg], we have the Museum of Transportation about 10 miles from where I live. Check it out:
http://www.museumoftransport.org/
One day, I hope you’ll tell us all about how you began with your interersts in trolley cars. All of us have at least one story that can provide the background … really would appreciate it if you’d compose yours and put it out for all the regulars to enjoy! [tup]
Tom
Gunns, Al here just have one question about the cars donated by Sandia labs do they glow in the dark Just Kidding.
G’afternoon all. I’ll have a cold tall draft from the tap.
Kevin- great pics of the locomotive, plates, tool car and caboose[tup]. I couldn’t see the number or lettering in the caboose picture, but is the lettering on the side ATSF or AT&SF? ATSF would be appropiate for lettering from 1943 until retirement. Lightweight cars are also a good choice to put behind the 2926. You can do it your way on Ebay…sorry I had to put that “jingle” in there lol. Seriously, I wouldn’t consider buying a passenger car on Ebay unless it’s for real and there’s no other alternative.
Tom, my wife and I had a good time at the Museum of Transportation in Kirkwood a couple of years ago. Hopefully by now they have things a little bit more organized as in equipment placement. Is the Rendezvous in Toronto for May 12 next year? Is that a weekend? I don’t have a map handy right now.
Ted, your welcome on the digital camera help. Can’t wait to see pics of Union Station. I don’t understand the reference to “Cliff Drive” though [%-)]
Better hop off the stool and get other things done.
Take care,
Russell
Permanent Stool holders are those members who have demonstrated their willingness to participate in the information sharing AND nonsense associated with “Our” Place. Those members are expected to at least say hello to the Proprietor and bar keep when stopping by! [:(!]
So, passengerfan Al WHO could I possibily be referring to[?] [:0]
Tom
G’day Trainnut484 Russell … One cold draught comin’ right up! [tup]
The FIRST ANNUAL “OUR” PLACE CLASSIC TRAINS RENDEZVOUS for the gang has been set for May 12th (Friday), 2006 in Toronto. Suggest you look at today’s SUMMARY for the details … Send me an Email if you have other questions regarding this. We really want to keep that type of dialogue on a one-on-one basis and off of cyber space.
The Museum of Transport here in St. Louis County has had somewhat of a leadership fluctuation over the years. I’m hardly an expert nor a frequent visitor - but I do read the papers! Anyway, my guess is that your visit may have coincided with one of those down periods when they suffered along with a young person with NO experience whatsoever in the top leadership role. My understanding is that has changed for the better and things are definitely far better. Nevertheless, a very impressive collection and a hard working bunch of volunteers.
By the way, those F units look great! Love that war bonnet livery! [tup][tup]
Tom
Sorry Tom just took a quick breather from book and apoligize for tha lack of manners.
How about the usual and a round for the house. I am making good progress on book so hate to even leave it for a minute when I get in a good writing mood.
The areas of book that I am able to complete I’m going ahead with and those areas I am waiting for info on I am just leaving for now. Tome stands at 275 pages now and hope it will take less than 20 more to complete.
Just in case anyone happens to know I still need the original startup dates for the Acela trains? Everything else seems to be falling in place.
Well will close for now thx for the rap on the knuckles Tom I need it every once in a while.
Well all right, this is the way "Our"Place “ought-be-hittin’-all-da-time!” Today: we be like a Club Car when when everybody be “playin’ the same tune!”[swg] Hmm-HMM![:D] Gunns anything for the #2926 will work from Santa Fe heavy weights (olive drab, picture window, open girder) coaches to Budd “fluted, stainless light weights” will do. Even the old G. I. Hospital Cars and “Kitchen Cars” can happen… take your pick. Just don’t forget my “Georgia 300” (lease) will bring up the rear. Oh, BTW Kevin, how many MIG 22’s did you bring down today?[tup]
Tom and Dave in regard to “S” guage, have you guys looked into “Model Railroad News?” This “Rag” (Monthly) seems to carry more than most for 3/16" modelers, along with “G,” HO, ON3, “O,” et al. I’m a subscriber for over a year now; I like it![^]
Where the Sam Hill is [C=:-)], Nick? The 3 bushels of Blue Fin Chesapeake Bay Maryland Crabs went so rancid that Boris had a “steam bake” for his “Rom” Clan.[alien] Okay, I gotta went, the Urban Renewal Bureauracrats are after last year’s contract committments…what a nerve![zzz] Happy rails all.
G’day passengerfan Al - Look, it’s quite simple 'round here - come through those doors and head for YOUR stool! That should be memory crutch enough to remember where it came from! [swg] That’s me - barkeep - knuckle rapper - and what did *** call me last week[?] - ah yes, housekeep!
That start up for Acela shouldn’t be so tough to find and I’m sorry if it sounds so elementary - but how about contacting Amtrak[?] It’s their train after all!
Ring the bell, Boris, the round is on Al [tup]
Tom
Afternoon tom and the gang…I decide to say low this weekend and catch up some chores and review some new DVDs I purchased which brings me to my next topic.
The DVD SP 1941 has a shot of the City of San Francisco with E2 A-B-B power but the kicker is the lower skirt and truck color. The skirts and trucks are wearing a coat of Leaf Brown while the roof is Harbor Mist Gray over Armour Yellow. I thought I was pretty familar with UP/SP schemes but this one is the first example i’ve encountered with this mix. Perhaps passengerfan Al can inpart his wisdom. By this time UP had abandoned Leaf brown , guess Pullman didn’t get the change order!
Glad to meet your aquaintance Theodorebear, not only am I aquainted with Model Railroad News, I do believe I derided the editor in front of a crowd of hundreds during a convention several years ago. For the life of me I can’t recall what got me in a tither, he got off easy compared to those membership greedy bloodsucking NMRA folks.[soapbox] Maybe its time to bury the hachet and atone for past sins and adopt a be kind to those that cover S attitude , not too many of us out there.
Tom,gang sorry I missed Nick’s party, a good time was had by all no doubt, so Nick a belated [bday] and a couple of drinks on me .
Tom.
Boris I fear has taken off with the Johnny Walker Black label again, I keep finding evidence of him having frequented the underside of the pool table, no other details need be provided . If you can retrieve a fresh bottle , i’d be forever in your grace.
Dave
Evening Ted
How I WISH we could hit on all bangers - just getting the regulars to read what’s been posted is becoming a nightmare. I still have several overdue responses to questions out there. [yeah] I know - my problem. [tdn] However, today is a better day than some in the recent past … [tup]
I’ll check out that magazine you mentioned next time I’m at my LHS … thanx. There was a magazine especially made for S-gaugers, S Gaugian. I’m not a subscriber, nor am I sure they are still in business, but have some issues in my collection. This is or was probably THE magazine for those who prefer the 1:64 scale.
Nick[?] [yeah] C’mon back - buy a new computer - go to a library or cyber store and log on - do something! [swg]
Tom
Evening West Coast S Dave
Don’t know what you’ve been drinking or smoking out there on the left coast [swg] but we didn’t have a party for Nick. Checking out the SUMMARIES lately[?] Also, the Birthday Watch List[?] Argggggggggggh. [censored][banghead]
Sure would love to hear the story about your rant with the magazine editor …
One bottle of Johnny Walker Black comin’ up … ice with that[?] [;)]
Tom
Well darn, aren’t I the one with egg on my face [?] I know someone, somewhere had a BD, now who? …Must be that Southern California freeway exhaust seeping into my underground bunker, yeh that’s it [banghead]. Easy ice, no Boris with that Black if you could… For those who are into it, the S Guagian is still available as well as 1/64th digest and a few others…including proto64 modeling.
Dave
Good evening all Well I will give up writing this evening and have a sociable drink or two. So barkeep how about a double crown royal with water chaser. And don’t forget a round for the house.
West Coast S About your question on the Leaf brown. You may be right it was just overlooked by Pullman or their is the possibility that Pullman was just going to use up the remaining leaf brown they had and the skirting was repainted in Chicago after every trip so could not have lasted to long. Pullman was not one to waste anything look at the years of service they got from their blankets alone. Pullman was very tough on their sub contractors and expected certain longevity guarantees out of these suppliers and did not hesitate to find another subcontractor when a product or service did not live up to implied promises. Remember most of the Pullman cars were built in the days of handshakes and not paper contracts for subcontractors. But Pullman themselves when dealing with the railroads used tons of paper for their contracts and their legal department dotted all of the I’s and crossed all of the T’s.
The one time where things changed on a new passenger car contract was the massive C&O order where eventually a number of cars were canceled and others went directly to other roads never wearing C&O paint. Although I understand the C&O purchased a large number of Hoppers for coal in exchange for the changes and partial cancellation of passenger cars.
Good evening gentlefolks.Tom I think I’ll have a quick keith,s if you don’t mind.Your latest email has been read and replied to.Westcoast I know what you mean about those NMRA types. I haven’t had much use for them since the[censored] mockery they made of the 2003 convention in Toronto.passengerAl Just wondering was bytown able to help you out with your LRC questions? If not the obvious like Tom said would be to talk to VIA direct.Sounds like the book is progressing nicely though,have you picked out your pictures for it yet?Gunns The pictures do look good sorry if I hadn’t mentioned that before. I wonder if VIA would sell or donate ( no it’s a [censored] gov agency ) some Budd cars to your cause. They seem to love thier new Eurotrash so who knows a park car and a couple of coaches, dinner,and baggage might be grabable for bottom dollar prices.Tom thanks for the link, looks like an interesting museum.I’ll try to post a bio story soon. It’s not all that interesting.If I post one though the rest of you need to as well. That could be passengerAl’s next book. the life and Times of" “Our Place”. PassengerAl I’m curious did pullman lease any cars to CN or CP. You alway’s see models of the Palace cars painted for both up here but I don’t recall ever seeing any shots of real life Pullmans in canadian service. Well gents pleasant evening. Rob
Good Morning All Just time for a Coffee & Danish before I get back to the Tome.
Trolleyboy, You asked a queation about Pullman leased cars to Canada. From what I have been able to gather only the CN had postwar cars that were in Pullman lease. Most of these cars ran in International service such as the through CN / GTW trains from Toronto to Chicago, CN / GN Super Continental - Winnipeg Limited between Vancouver and St. Paul or as the through cars in the Maple Leaf of the CN / CNJ between Toronto and New York or as through cars in the Washingtonian- Montrealer between Montreal and Vancouver via the CN / CV / NYNH&H / PRR… All of the streamlined cars were Pullman Standard built in 1954 as follows.
delivered January February 1954 8-Duplex Roomette 4 Section 4-Double Bedroom cars 1120 ELCOTT, 1121 ELDERBANK, 1122 EXCELSIOR, 1123 ELGIN, 1124 ELIZABETH, 1125 ELLERSLIE, 1126 ELLISTON, and 1127 ELMIRA
delivered April 1954 6-Section 6-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom cars 1162 GREEN POINT, 1163 GREENMOUNT, 1164 GREEN BROOK, 1165 GREEN COURT, 1166 GREENING, 1167 GREEN CABIN, 1168 GREENSHIELDS, 1169 GREEN BUSH, 1170 GREENFIELD, 1171 GREEN HARBOUR, 1172 GREEN HILL, 1173 GREEN LANE, 1174 GREENVIEW, 1175 GREENVALE, and 1176 GREENWAY
delivered in May 1954 10-Roomette 5- Double Bedroom 2022 BUCKLEY BAY, 2023 HUDSON BAY, 2024 CHALEUR BAY and 2025 GLACE BAY
also delivered in May 1954 2-Double Bedroom 2-Compartment Buffet 25-Seat Lounge Cars 1086 CAPE CANSO, 1087 CAPE BRETON, 1088 CAPE CHIGNECTO, and 1089 CAPE TORMENTINE.
Hope this helps. I would have to go to storage locker to find out about the heavyweights that were in International service;.
Hope that helps Passengerfan Al
Thank you West Coast S, its also a pleasure to “meet your acquaintance,” I’m sure. Tom please “set up the bar” for all present. Make mine an Irish Coffee, if you will please, but minus the whipping cream. I can relate to the lack of publications specific to S scale/guage. Belive it or not, (early in HO publications) there was a disparity of data on passenger cars while freight enjoyed top priority and Traction was almost a “sub culture.” Old man Walthers (Wm. K) catalog was about the only “oasis” in the desert.[tup] Right now, I’m having the opposite problem. Yesterday, I went shopping for digital photo gear and [within an hour] my head was swimming in mountainous waves of cyber statistics that would challenge a young Enrico Ferme![V] My own fault for being so lethargic for so long![:I]
Anyhoo, I needed to at least, prove the varasity of the reports on my humble modeling efforts.[:-^] So, I did the unthinkable![:O] Right, I transferred some old pics to a C.D. at Wal Mart and will attempt to get them to Post a.s.a.p.! Yes I know, the end result will be somewhere between a Brownie Box camera and Edison’s “Vita Phone” but until I’m “in the saddle,” it will do for now. Okay, thanks Tom, I trust you are coping with our resident enigma (Boris) with a minimum of hair loss and property damage.[alien]
TUESDAY’s SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)
G’day! It’s raining here in mid-continent USA – finally getting that much needed water for our oh so dry soil and greenery. Nice steady stuff, nothing severe (yet). Ahhhhhhhh, the sound of rain on the roof is almost as relaxing as the clickety clack of steel wheels on steel tracks! I said ALMOST![swg]
BIRTHDAY BASH for *** this FRIDAY at 9 AM, CDST
Editorial Comment: I’m always astounded at how easy it is to fall into the trap of believing everyone is on the same page when it comes to communications on these forums – not just this thread. How many simply do not take the time to acquaint themselves with what the subject is about nor to review the posts prior to submitting one. Astounding – simply astounding.
Okay, here’s the SUMMARY without many of the smilies, graphics and photo’s ……
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QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 11 Jul 2005, 09:01:04
Morning all, drinks are on me all day,
I finished my annual alignment, on my UPS.
Rob that’s a great looking motor, can I talk you in to coming down for our cab? Lotsa green and red Chili here…
Ted Model work is in many ways harder than what we are doing, creating a feel of the prototype is surprisingly hard, perspective can be really hard. <I used to “Cheat” I took slides of house or car interiors and would mount them in the windows of a car or structure, and backlight them>
Hey Ya’ll a Question? what kind of coaches are appropriate to the 2926? The club is looking to obtain a pair of coaches, for day trips, and mabye a buffet car. While we are still 5 or 6 years away from operations, we want to start keeping our eyes open. We all ready have a “troop sleeper” and a hospital kitchen
Hi All,
It’s my Sat, and I have some time.
A tall Pilzner Bitte.
Passengerfan The cars dont glow but there is this black box on the frame now…
Theodorbear Dem jets arn’t in here… I “Got” a Me262, the other day, I was in my “Jug” a P47-D25, the Gomer zoomed up in front of me and just hung there… gotta love them 8 .50s. As for the Georgia, we would be proud to pull that one. The wife and I are kinda thinking of findin a car to fit up into a vacation home, but the rules Amtrac has for pulling them are tough, of course we will have access to our War Baby…
Every one thanks for the car info, with such a wide selection, I’ll let the other members do the picking.
Trainnut484 I Think I’ll run down to the storage site, and shoot some pics of the cabbose, and put them up…
Ahhh Breakfast,
Gunns
Morning Gunns - Well if it’s your Saturday then how about some steak 'n eggs[?] We can make an exception to the light breakfast fare around here - I’m close to the Proprietor. [;)]
With all this talk of restorations, museums and vintage rail cars, I think I’ll schedule a trip over to the Museum of Transport one morning next week. Predictions of rain - some heavy - for the remainder of this week, will keep me home.
Have to get on with the landscaping work for my S-gauge layout. Now that the wiring is done, I’m concentrating on building up the terrain. Can’t go too high, for this layout gets stored up in the basement joists - 4-point hoist system. If you haven’t done so, why not check out the photo’s on my site[?] http://www.railimages.com/gallery/thomasweber - then go to page 5.
Enjoy the day and thanx for stopping by! [tup] [;)]
Tom