I have been looking on train-sim.com for the pacific surfliner route. It says they have it in there news page ,and plus people told me on youtube its in the train-sim library ,but I just can’t seem to find it! Can someone please help!
Pacific Surfliner was a payware route product, so it was and probably will never be at train-sim. It is no longer available anywhere. It was developed by Facing Point Media, but the trainsets were made by 3DTrains. Facing Point allowed people to pre-order the route, but then because of delays, it was several years after the expected release date. Later when it was finally done, some people never got the route at all, or a refund. Also the owner of Facing Point did not pay 3DTrains completely for the rolling stock, so they ordered Facing Point to send all copies of the route to 3DTrains, which probably did not happen, and took over ownership of the route. Soon after Facing Point went out of business and now their website is gone too. That was about 2 years ago. The Trainsets (but not the route) have been released again by www.3dtrains.com, for about the price of the original route. The Surfliners are very detailed. So there’s no way to get a copy of that route anymore, unless 3DTrains eventually releases it.
They have occasionally floated across Ebay. Some copies from a hobby shop made an appearance a few months ago. There is an entire pinned topic on train-sim on the doings of the route and what happened.
Yeah I just got almost like the last copy before they went out of business…I once heard you can make copies of it but I am not sure…
You don’t mention if you are running MSTS or Trainz…
I have Pacific Surfliner v2 for TRS2006 complete with all the dependencies available for free download at my website.
~Rick
MSTS’s one is not to bad…The units are pretty nice…
To sort out a few inaccuracies stated above…
I am one of the developers of the Pacific Surfliner route developed by Facing Point Media and 3DTrains. So, I just happen to know the ‘real deal’ when false information is spread around on forums and what-not.
1 - The route was not several years late. It was about 7 or 8 months late…I can’t remember our original release date, but it was moved back more than once due to problems with developing the route. The MSTS community’s reaction to these delays were what led to the route being released in an unfinished state.
2 - 3DTrains ONLY has rights to content developed FOR the Pacific Surfliner route, not the entire route. This includes the Surfliner trainsets, Coaster trainsets, Metrolink trainsets, some freight equipment, several key structures along the route, and the ScaleRail system debuted with the route. Every thing else belongs to Facing Point Media, even to this day…not 3DTrains. If Facing Point Media were to replace all of the above mentioned content they could do with the route as they wish.
3 - The relationship between Facing Point Media and 3DTrains, and several other contracted developers, was broken because the terms of the contract were not met. 3DTrains did not receive the moneys owed for services rendered. We were also quite disappointed with the approach Facing Point Media was taking in regard to customer service. The owner of the company, Andrew Held, hired PR reps to handle the customer service when things turned bad and all but disappeared from public view. Not only did he leave the community out to hang, his PR reps were left taking the heat when even they did not know what was going on. For this reason 3DTrains sent Facing Point Media a Cease and Desist notification warning that no other copies of the route were to be sold if it included content created by 3DTrains. Facing Point Media quickly closed up shop after this (pull