just wondering if anyone else here has ever had problems opening any Floquil paint bottles? Ive got a bottle of zinc chromate primer that just WILL NOT open. My hand is killing me trying to open this damn thing! is this common? is there anything i can do?
If you have a nut cracker around, try using that. The old type helps you get a grip on the lid
My methods all result in the lid being destroyed. You might find that soaking it in laquer thinner will soften the paint enough that it comes lose (I haven’t tried this). Usually, I crimp mine with pliers, just enough to deform the lid, then it will usually open. Of course, the lid is ruined. I keep a few mixing bottles/lids handy, so then I transfer the paint to a new bottle and chuck the messed up bottle/lid.
Here are some tips I got from one of the MR Dream Plan Build DVDs:
Never shake the paint; that’s how the paint gets on the lid. Open it and stir it instead. Before closing the bottle wipe the bottle threads and lid with a clean thinner soaked rag. Then put the lid on. I’ve been following this advice and it has reduced my paint frustration a lot.
Micro-Mark sells a jar opener. Their Item #81313. Costs $6.95. I have one for years and it works fine. As stated before cleaning the jar and lids goes a long way in getting the jars open the next time.
I keep a small pair of channel locks just for this purpose.
As said, keeping the threads clean and not shaking the bottle to get the paint coating the lid will help. I always stir the paint.
When I reseal the bottle, I place a small square of plastic over the top and screw on the lid. The plastic forms a new seal and allows the lid to twist off easily next time.
Ditto on nedthomas’ post, I have one of the Micro-Mark jar openers and it works great.
Use caution with the channel lock technique. I once got a little enthusiastic with that technique and the bottle cracked and crushed. I ended up with a Grimy Black hand full of glass chunks and solvent paint, and a mess on the floor.
[(-D]Did the same thing with a bottle of silver myself! Running hot water on it for a while helps.
Then CAREFULLY use some channel locks.[B)]
I read here if one take’s a piece of saran (plastic wrap) and places it over the bottle, then tighten the cap works. Store it upright where it wont get shook around, works pretty good. I think I would test the paint on the wrap first, Just a thought…John
I use a pair of slip joint pliers very carefully.
I break the bottle, and paint fast… OK I use the Micro Mark jar opener too, it works about as well as anything.
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I never tried Saran wrap, it propably is too thin. I use the leftover bags from all the detail parts. And boy do I have plenty of them. The plastic does work well, have been storing Floequil and Scalecoat this way for years. Even some of the half filled bottles will last years w/o geling or skimming.
Got the idea from my brother (auto body) that seals gallons of paint by running electrical tape stretched around the lid to act as a gasket. Of coarse they all do have shortened shelf life once opened, but extends it considerably.
cool, thanks guys. thing is, the bottle is new. its never been opened. sooo yeah. haha
Invert the bottle and dip just the lid into boiling hot water. Careful…you only need to keep it in there for about three seconds. Invert the bottle and use vice grips that have been previously adjusted to size to “just” grip the top snugly enough that the lock engages. This way, instead of hurrying and trying to grip the lid hard enough to get it off, you won’t overdo it and crush the glass.
Another tip that works well for me, TIGHTEN the lid.
The paint forms a bond between glass and lid, so to move the lid to unscrew it, you have to break the bond.
Mechanically, when you twist the lid and it’s stuck, you compress and slightly smear the bonding paint inside the lid, but do not crack the bond loose.
At this point, a little reverse pressure, tightening the lid instead of loosening it, not enough to actually move the lid, just enought to torque it a bit, will often crack the lid loose for an easy open from there.
This idea seems brilliant! I almost wish I had a stuck lid so I could try it,
I’m not sure if this method would work with solvent paint. I usually use acrylics. When the lids get stuck I tap on the top and sides of the lid with the handle of a kitchen knife. It doesn’t really matter what you use, it just needs to be hard and heavy enough. The tapping usually breeaks the seal formed by the dried paint making the lid easy to open. You end up with a slightly dented lid but it is still useable.
I got a jar lid opener pad from Wal-Mart. I use it to hold onto the bottle and use a pair of slip-joint pliers to clamps down on the lid. I haven’t lost one yet.
Another strategy is once you have the bottle open do not close it…
ever.
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And paint fast…
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