I have a question:
Can i have both PRR and NYC on the same track?I`m just beegining on the U.S railway and shall building up modelrailway by using U.S scenery.
So far as i know,i think PRR and NYC did coperation together in real prototyp?
agge [?]
Yes you can. They later merged into Penncentral.
Anders,
Cooperation might be a term pushing the language envelope. While NYC and PRR did merge(a marriage of convenience since other roads weren’t interested) they had different cultures and had been competitors for so long that each road’s workforce knew absolutely that their way was the right way. This workforce culture clash seems to be an overlooked factor when senior management makes the decision to proceed with a merger.
The postmortem re PC was a drowning man shouldn’t seek help from another drowning man.
Besides, it’s your road(layout) [tup] [:D] so you can do whatever you want. Your NYC/PRR layout will probably work better than the real entity ever did.
Jon
What about railwayscars?They must have been mixed somewhere too in all states in U.S?
I like where much too by to see UP(Union Pacific)on the modelrailways too!Yellow doubleheaded locomotiv on the track,PUUH!Like SD40-2!Not bad!
agge [8D]
I recently read a book called “Set Up Running” by Orr describing his fathers time as an engineer on the PRR. He described the PRR & NYC Running and cooperating on the same tracks in the Williamsport division.I believe it was near Schenectady. Very interesting book purchased thru Penn state not only for railroad history but also for life in that time.
Agge,
The New Haven and PRR worked together.
Lots of NH cars on PRR trains and PRR cars on NH trains.
You should seriously consider the New Haven and PRR.
I run NYC and PRR on my layout, but the trains don’t seem to mind. [swg]
-Crandell
(photo from the Thomas Kempland collection)
This photo was taken on the Norfolk & Western (old Wabash) line thru Ferguson Mo. at the Ferguson Station. The St. Louis to Kansas City Missouri Pacific line (now UP) was washed out during a flood and the traffic was rerouted over the N&W. Also the Illinois Central Gulf used this same N&W line when they had a bridge hit by a barge on the Illinois River. So you can run other near by railroads on your same track just like the real railroads do!
agge,
I get the idea you don’t quite understand how privately-owned railroading works in the US. Our railroads operate under rules of interchange which permit the cars from one railroad to be exchanged with cars from a connecting railroad. The railroad that accepts a car pays the owning railroad a daily (per diem) rent on the car, and is responsible for the car as long as the receiving railroad has the car. When the load is delivered, the car is either loaded for a return trip, or is sent back the by the same route.
While PRR and NYC were separate lines, they did exchange cars.
Ah, this is different - due to interchange rail cars between all Class I railroads in North America (and most smaller railroads too, including shortlines) starting, I guess, in the late 1800s, you could indeed see cars from many different railroad’s on many ‘foreign’ lines (meaning not the freight car’s home or owning road). There were even rules to ensure that a freight car would not be away from it’s home railroad forever (such as trying to ensure the return load of a freight car on a foreign road the destination is toward it’s home road). There have been many studies of various fleet makeup at any given time, such that if you saw a general merchandise train of the PRR heading toward Philadelphia say, it would likely have a percentage of Home or PRR/PRR controlled lines (usually a large percentage), then such and such a percentage of close-by interchange roads (like Reading and B&O), and then smaller percentages of far-away roads (like Santa Fe or Burlington) and so on - and yep, NYC/NYC controlled roads (e.g. P&LE) would be represented there.
Heh, thinking back that was pretty cool, as opposed to the limited number of Class Is we have now…
PRR and NYC merged to form Penn Central in 1968. This was done to eliminate duplicate facilities and trackage. However, in reality, it didn’t work as well as they thought… Of course throwing in the bankrupt New Haven in 1969 didn’t help either. The merger wasn’t a happy one, and by 1970, everything fell apart. Years of deferred maintenance by all 3 predecessor roads, falling passenger service (PC ran nearly half of American intercity trains), government interference all combined to kill railroading in the northeast. By 1976, PC and 5 other bankrupt railroads were merged into Conrail…
For more on the Penn Central, go here: http://www.pcrrhs.org .
Unrepainted PRR and NYC rolling stock was very common during this era, and some of it even lasted into the 1980s, still in the pre-PC colors.
Thanks for the answers,pals!!!
I have been teaching more now. [:D]
New Haven and PRR or NYC,very interesting!Why not to try with those models on the track?3 different BLI loco with sounds and a lot of railwayscars too! [^]
agge [8D]