And we go back to the Bush-is-at-fault for everything again. What a pointless, illogical thread. Not only does it have nothing to do with railroading, but it is just an outlet for people to blame someone else for their perceived problems. Gee, there’s a new thought.
all the white house should have done something during last oil crisis of 70s. crisis what crisis?
no one person is responsible for all oil problems we face.
i take my mountain bike with me for resturant fare, a snack at caseys, library internet,weather,news,trains line. its nothing to ride 10 miles straight when its 95 degrees.
i get online for cheapest gas prices at towns i go thru to the jctn. i dive 5 mph slower to save oil.
buy everything at walmart inc. groceries. afew ways to save a green buckeroo.
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT.
H’mm think you should have checked Palm Beach County FL before you posted what you posted. If you did you would have found the price for regular gas there is around $3.15 per gallon
So why not move to a state that you think has lower gas prices then Nebraska?
at the quad cities ill. last month got 85% ethonol at 2.30 per gal !!!
gas in chicago now 3…40 a gal for reg .
can they make diesel blend out of eth?
Oviously you don’t remember the gas shortages of the mid 70’s. After our soldiers came home from Nam the gas prices went UP. They never came DOWN. What makes you think they will come down this time? You need to wake up and smell the roses. Open your eyes to the real world. Somewhere down the line 85% ethinol will be comprobibly priced to gas. That’s the American way. It’s called free interprise. My [2c]
Neal
Vietnam is a major source of oil? I don’t think so. I am not saying that the Iraq conflict is the reason that gas prices are higher than they were a couple of years ago, but many people do think that because Iraq is a major producer of oil. So the Vietnam reference has little value.
Bert
I really think you totally misread the post about Nam. Try again
Maybe we as North Americans should stop whining, invest in more trains (transit, passenger, and freight) that are more fuel efficient and break our costly dependency on the wasteful automobiles we buy. We are such a short sighted narrow minded bunch…we want it, but we don’t want to pay for it. We use every intelligent sounding excuse possible to justify why North America can’t have the trains that Europe have, yet the real reason is we are so selfish (emotion) we don’t want to stop driving our car to the quicky mart that is only 5 minutes away. But maybe its too late, maybe we are doomed…our cities and suberbs are designed around the automobile, and so Europe and Asian (can someone say China) will become the new supers powers awash with an efficient cash flowing soceity and we North Americans will be stuck with a broken economy tied down with boat anchors.
Nope I didn’t. But thanks for your input.
Bert
I’m tired of posting that the Iraq conflict is a big factor in the US gas prices.
Google for US oil imports and you can see Iraq pales in comparison to our biggest importer Canada, then Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and Nigeria. Each of these countrys bring in twice to three times the amount of oil daily that Iraq does.
We are spoiled with our gas prices here in this country, and I suggest each of us look to other needless expenseses to cut back on.
Adrianspeeder
If I lived besides some active track I would buy a high quality web cam, create a web page so my fellow railfans could watch trains live…I know its not as good as the real thing, but would help save a few bucks on gas. 
Yup. Gas prices in the western 'burbs of Chicago are around $3.15 per gallon. I just got back from Northern Virginia where they were around $2.85. Different areas do use different additives but the biggest difference here is gas in the collar counties of Chicago is taxed to support (among other things)public transportation. Good thing or bad thing? You decide.
There’s also the old supply and demand curve - soccer moms driving king-hell SUVs to the grocery store are not helping. And of course, the oil companies will charge what the market will bear as long as they don’t run afoul of any antitrust laws. Even switching to an E85 capable vehicle won’t necessarily save you a lot because your mileage will go down on E85 versus 87 octane.
So it really is multifactorial like most things in economics and life.
Adrian…Oil prices have been effected by the Iraq war. A combination of “what has…and what is” happening in that part of the world has upset traders and prices involved…plus the uncertainty of the Iraq oil getting to world market contributing to the oil supply is a factor…And now the escalating warfare from Israel, etc…and we and the rest of the world are paying the “price” for it.
you are right on !! the mide east keeps getting hotter n hotter!! god help us!!
I vote we spend more money on educating America’s youth, so we don’t have to deal with the likes of the BNSF railfans and their nonsensical spewage of B.S. It boggles my mind that people are that effing nieve!
I can’t believe I wasted the time to re-register to get back on this forum rather than jump through hoops to get the farmer03 name back on.
The hammock in the backyard, an ice cold Coors Light and watching the grass grow sounds way more fun than conversing with a few fruits and nuts about their worldly views.
Go then…Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Shut up. Cry me a river.
Honestly,
If you can’t afford the gas, then don’t go railfanning. It is that simple. The world won’t end if you can’t drive to see trains.