Found this on another forum site.
Interesting video of this “policeman” in action against picture takers:
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it downloaded for me. That is nuts. some powerhungry RR cop overstepping his bounds. I swear if somthing like that happened to me i would tell that guy so shove it up his rear and then I would leave. That guy needs kicked in the teeth for his stupidity. I think that if you are enjoying a hobby, and doing it safley, then there should be no problem with it. Railfans could be used to thier advantage when it comes to spotting things that the RR needs to know about. I saw a pair of locos go by me about a month ago and the front door of the 2nd loco was open. I happend to spot a RR worker coming down the street in his hyrailer so I flagged him down and told him, he immediatly got on the radio and informed someone and thanked me for reporting it.
Oh and bnsfcoal, 1 slight geologic inaccuracy in your signature. Diamonds no not come from coal. They come from kimberlite.
I think it is ignorant to think the cop overstepped his bounds. Anybody, even us railfans, pose a threat in the eyes of the railroad, which is totally understandable. They are moving freight, many hazardous loads at that, across the country. n my opinon, they have every right to show their power and do what it takes to get people they believe to be a threat away from them.
Those guys were being very ignorant. I dont believe the cop would have been as overpowering if they had just obligued.
Agree!
I’m convinced that video has been edited. And I can view it just fine.
Watch the stack train going one way then a coal/hopper train goes the other way. Watch how the second train’s locos just jump into the picture. What was taken out? What didn’t the poster/photographer want us to see or hear?
These guys are trespassing on railroad property. They have no right to do that. They keep saying “There’s no sign”. Ef Them. There are no signs around my yard. That doesn’t mean you can come into my yard and set up to take picutes.
They resisted providing identification. You have to do that. You have to give a peace officer your ID in some form. You just have to tell him/her your name, but you have to identify yourself.
I’ve been a railfan for over 50 years. I’ve had one encounter with railroad security. When I was about 14 I rode an IC fan trip to Havana, IL. At Havana my friend and I climbed up on top of a boxcar. An IC officer came over and told us “you better get down from there before you hurt youselves”. We did. And that was the end of that.
Latter, when I went to work for the ICG I got to know some people from our police. They were very professional people. Railroad police have a very important job. They make mistakes and they’re not saints. But stay off the property, even if there are “no signs”, show ID when
Agreed x 3…looks like these guys were trying to stir things up.
Looks like the video was edited at least 2x. I saw two times for sure when the images in the back jumped (of the trains) and possibly a third.
Ha! What a joke. People think they have the right to do whatever just because there’s no signs. Obviously if you’ve seen no trespassing signs in a similar setting…alongside railroad tracks and so forth…and brought it up then one would logically assume that the same would apply most everywhere.
I used to work with a guy who was big into hunting. He’d ask me if he could hunt on our property, out in the cornfields later on in the fall. When I said no he got allll pissed off going on and on about how the fields weren’t being used anymore and farmers were all just a bunch of dickheads because they wouldn’t let guys hunt on their fields. I tried to explain to him about the idea of how it’s our property and about all the liability issues nowadays…didn’t want it, don’t need the trouble. I still hear about it from time to time.
They are not the first railfans to visit this place, which is Brighton Park Crossing in Chicago. This well-respected website highlights the area and provides directions and instructions:
http://www.dhke.com/CRJ/brighton.html
To balance what’s being said, I also think the police officer should have been willing to display some sort of credential, which he refused. Instead, he got surly, real quick. Perhaps you have to show a peace officer some ID, but how can they be sure he’s a peace officer? Just because he acts like one? What you got is a place with no signs and a guy with no badge. It could have been handled better by both sides. And his statement that the state of Illinois just passed a law that signs aren’t necessary, well, I’ll check with the BNSF police. That’s a new one on me, and I follow this kind of stuff. Remember, in Chicago a year ago two Metra Police officers told two railfans that it was against Federal Law to stand on a station platform and take pictures, and that the Homeland Security Act superceded the U.S. Constitution… read on.
But I would also like to know the date the video was recorded.
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QUOTE: From TRAINS magazine, by Don Phillips, syndicated columnist.
Stupidity, ignorance, and the power of fear
Chicago railfans are terrorists? Give me a break.
If you’re a regular reader, you know that I seldom use nasty language, nor do I openly express anger. I try to be reason
Im convinced the tape has been butchered for whatever reason.
By overstepping his bounds I mean that he just started in on talking about them going to jail without even talk of leaving first. there are better ways to dispose of the situation. Yes the guys were trespassing, and faild the identify themselves, however he was just being plain ugly to them from the get go. I would have drove up and politely said. “I’m sorrry, but you are on private property. Would you please leave immediatly.” And then made sure that they did leave. The men offerend to leave later on in the incident but the RR cop kept takling. I just think the the whole situation could have been handled a little better than this. Yes the men trespassed and were also beind ingorant and the RR cop had every right to do that. But not be just plain nasty to them. That ios what is wrong with mots of people in our world today, lots of people are not polite to others anymore. I do also think that this tape has been edited, notice that a coal triain just magically appears. As well as before that some red containers turn into blue ones. So maybe I jumped to a conclusion and it would have been better see the whole story before doing so.
If you listen real carefully on that video, the father even begins to admit that he was tresspassing. He even stifled the dreaded “T” word in front of the policeman.
That fan did not seem to be the brightest person.
Personally, I think the policeman did what he had to do, and the “father fanner” developed a confrontational attitude.
Your opinion(s)?
I didnt see any “official” markings on the vehicle, so my bet is that the movie was not edited, but STAGED and shot in 2-3 different scenes.
Basically two jerk railfans trying to make the railroads look worse than they are and trying to stir up bad feelings towards them.
That’s what I think too.