Do all railroads (class 1s) pay close to the same, or do some pay more than others? I am speaking of the engineer/conductor jobs.
I think they’re all about the same.
Engineers last I heard where paid at a rate of $100,000/year with most engineers getting out about 80% of the time.
***…100k a year… and only working 80% a year…must either be a realy nice milage pool or they are working more then you think…
the average is around 50K a year…but that figer can go up or down all based on what the pool milage is in the terminal your out of… how many starts you get in a pay period… but alot of how much you make comes down to this…the more you are willing to work and do work…the more you going to make…
csx engineer
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100k yep i almost made that. i fell just short by 99k
Are you guys on the N.S. on triprate yet Wabash?
110000/yr two trips a week
Im sure you make that much frthauler…[}:)]
coborn. top 4 engineers and conductors are working those jobs— yeah im sure
In the Los Angeles area the division points are:
Los Angeles - San Luis Obispo 221.8 miles
Los Angeles - Bakersfield 194.2 miles
West Colton - Bakersfield 181.3 miles
West Colton - Yuma 197.0 miles
At the time engine crews around here could max out at 438 starts per year with most guys getting 350 starts per year or $80,000 of the $100,000 rate.
Can somebody explain to me the whole pay deal. What are starts? What is a pool? How is the pay per trip determined? How much per hour, etc. etc.?
Starts Mr.kfleeman1 are the times you went to work you went to work 5 times thats 5 starts you went to work 18 times that half…((half being two weeks that is a two week pay period)) then youstarted out 18 times that half…simple enough.
I had 12 starts in my pool…Ok I went to work 12 times in the pool of employees that are working on the same stretch of rail or combination of rail lines if you will. I got on that pool because I had enough senority to hold a spot on that pool that is posted so that others may exercise their senority to hold that pool also.
So far we have a START,a day at work. A Pool, a grouping of employees.
Hourly pay…Collective bargining is what determines pay rates and such matters. A basic day what the hell is it ?? 130 miles I think any ways theres a dollar amount for that which I think is about(my bag is in my truck will get the book out later and get exact amounts ) Anyways…say about 150 dollars for the basic day break that down into 8 hours and thats 18.75 an hour. but its all based on mileage and thers a dollar amount for that and overtime starts after a certain mileage.
For instance says in BN schedule rule 24b on runs 100 miles or less overtime is after 8 hours over 100 miles overtime starts when the time on duty exceeds the miles run divided by 12 1/2 overtime shall be paid for on the minute basis at a rate per hour of three-sixthteens of the daily rate.
(why am I always confused about this stuff I wonder)
THere are also trip rates that take into account any claims for sort crew allowance meals enroute and a whole slew of other possible claims…
Clear as mud now??
Its complicated to say the least I will find more facts for you but this is why when you say what do you make an hour you may get a hundred different answers
Also 100,000 may be for an older engineer who gets productivity and profit sharring and many other perks that have been given away and no longer apply to new rails…
If you start out and you dont
there is no simple way to put how we get paid. there are all kinds of different rates of pay. for example, you have road service, local service, switch engine serivice, roadswitcher service, deadhead service, work train and snowplow service. no matter what contract you worked under all these services paid a different rate. under both ble and utu national agreement road service almost all the time pays a 1.33 a mile, not including overtime.
WHen you hired out and asked hows the pay work the first word of the answer is a very long ummmmmm and a stroke of the chin :O) It is so complicated I am still learning to track it all and come out right.
And if I remember right, about the time it looks like you might make a little $, they go and put another turn in the pool!
Moo
Read on another site that a railroad engineer for Metrorail in Miami working alot of overtime made $115,000
Richest man in the cemetary!
If a start is a days work how can you do 438 a year. I thought that there are only 365 days in the year - or have your employers found a way to get some extra days out of you [8D]
A friend of mine who works 23 or 24 days per month as a locomotive engineer for a Class 1 railroad in a 176-mile district makes around $75-K annually. Many of the $100-K men are literally spending over half of their lives “on the property,” including time on duty and time at the away-from-home terminal. Nights, weekends, and holidays for pool freight employees all pay the same, and there’s no “overtime after 40.” The crew that a railfan is waving at on a long mixed-merchandise, unit coal, double stack, grain or ore train probably works more nights than days. The inconveniences, long hours, and irregular schedules make for a hard life.
It’s possible to get more than one start in a day.
Say you go on duty at 0001hrs at your home terminal. Work a trip in 8 hours to your awaf from home terminal, tie up (go off duty) at 0800hrs. Legal rest is minimum of 8 hours so you can legally go back to work at 1600hrs. Go back on duty 1600hrs at away from home terminal and work home. There is your second start of the day.
I remember one old head saying he once had 3 starts in one 24 hour period. Of course didn’t work all entire trips on the same day and had extremely good over the road trips.
And it’s true, most making 100 grand a year are at work more than at home.
Jeff