I just received a 2010 Lionel catalog set from Charles Ro Supply. I’m sure a lot of others have received it as well. from whatever source. In the larger catalog, there are several conventional classic sets being offered, one of them being the #1587 Girl’s Set. I’m wondering if anyone has considered this set, or has any “inside information” as to the quality and accuracy of colors, details, etc.
It was a bad idea when they first came out with it in the 50’s, it was a bad idea when K-Line, Williams, et al, tried to reproduce it in the 90’s, and it’s a bad idea now. Why don’t these train manufacturers let that set go to rest?
John
They don’t let go because it sells.
It is surprising how popular they are when they are running at the museum. But by far the most popular is Thomas & Friends.
Because there are so many collectors who know they’ll never be able to afford an example of the original, so they’re willing to settle for a reproduction.
If my memory serves me correctly, the original postwar sets weren’t too pricy about 3 years ago. No?
Jack
If my memory serves me correctly, the original postwar sets weren’t too pricy about 3 years ago. No?
Jack
I saw two Postwar Girls sets at York, both were priced over $5,000.
This will be the third reproduction by Lionel of the original Postwar set. Lionel must have a pretty good idea how many they will sell.
I guess that all depends on one’s idea of “too Pricy”.
As long as I have been in the hobby, the original Postwar Girls set was a desireable item for collectors, with a high price tag.
On the other hand, in the Modern Era, the girls set has been reproduced. Perhaps a couple of times, I didn’t keep track.
Regardless, at least the first reproduction set did drop into “blowout” status, but over time, folks decided that they wanted in, and the reproduction set price went back up. I think they go for a premium these days.
Perhaps this was the this set you were thinking of.
The only Girls Train piece I have is the hopper car (6436-500), which is officially “lilac”. However, it can pass for gray in a non-pastel train.
My grandaughters (8 and 6) aren’t super interested in trains. But, when shown the girls set they do not want/care for it. When it"s their turn to run them, I have to get out the Polar Express set, Disney, aquarium and Wizard cars. Naturally they love all of the accessories.
On the Girl’s set, the engine is a Hudson, right. 2046???
Jack.
According to the catalog, the new CC version loco is a “2037-500LT 2-6-4 Steam Locomotive.” Must be a 2037 Prairie.
Pete
2037-500 is the number of the original. Lionel liked to call their 2-6-4s “prairies”; but they’re really “Adriatics”, with no American prototype.
The funny thing is that there are now more post war lionel girls sets than were actually produced. Many people who think they have an original set actually have counterfits. I would not personally want one.
Roger
Thanks for all the interest and replies to my question, but I think the replies got “off track”, pardon the pun.
One reply was bang-on. I’m looking for a good Lionel REMAKE of the original classic Girl’s Set, without having to mortgage my house.
My original questions were simply whether anyone had seen this newest-issued set and could he or she attest to the accuracy of the colors and markings. Absolutely no offense to the respondents, but that’s all I was looking for.
I sea.
Pete
If you take a closer look at the price sheet that Ro sent you along with the catalog you may notice that the latest CC repro 1587 girl’s set is not due to arrive until September, so I’m guessing that no one has seen it yet, thus rendering it impossible for anyone to be able to ascertain the accuracy of the colors and markings.
Pete
From what I hear, the colors will be correct and the set packaging will be like it was in 1957. Also the engine will have the pulmor motor like the original which the previous release did not have. The previous set was advertised to have a pulmor motor, but was released with a can motor. Lionel issued a free extra car for those who were disappointed. I cancelled my order when I heard can motor. If your interested in the girls set, The 2010 set is the one to buy. I have one on order.
The new re-re-release will differ from the last two in these ways:
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The 1991 re-run did not have rivet detail on the boxcars or the horizontal rivet row on the N5c Cabin Car. They also had plastic brake-wheels and die-cast sprung trucks. The set DID however come with an ivory transformer with a gold handle like the original.
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The most recent remake had the the rivet details back on the boxcars and metal brake-wheels, but had die-cast sprung trucks, and lacked the PullMor motor and transformer.
BOTH engines had the classification lights moved from the top of the casting at 10 & 2, to the front of the casting. This was done to the tooling by Lionel/MPC.
The NEW set will have the PullMor motor, full rivet detail on the boxcars and caboose, metal brake-wheels and die-cast bar-end Post War style trucks.
No transformer is listed in the catalog.
No mention of the Classification Lights position.
Jon [8D]
Had a customer curious about the set yesterday till they saw the price, Over $500 list, and that’s without command control. Suggested he take a look at Williams and see what their price is like. We can get either.