Rock Island historical modeling

With interest having been shown in the Chicago, Rock Island, and Pacific Railroad lately in the forum, it seemed proper to begin a threat about modeling the historic Rock Island. Of course, the joke is that the entire railroad is historic now, it ceased operation in 1980 in its original form, which is now 46 years back, long enough to be historic in itself.

But anyway, in its day, as the song says, the Rock Island line was a mighty fine road. And in the present day, the name lives on.

But for the moment at least, the focus will be on the pre-1980 Rock Island railroad.

My own interest in the historic Rock Island is that, what very few people are aware of, is that the Rock Island ran a line due south from Little Rock to Eunice, Louisiana, only 40 miles or so from the Gulf of Mexico.

When this line was originally built, Rock Island control was with a tycoon named BF Yoakam, who also controlled the Frisco at the time. The Rock Island joined the Frisco in Eunice in an attempt to cobble together a major north south-carrier from Chicago to the Gulf to compete with the Illinois Central and the Gulf, Mobile in Northern.

This attempted empire collapsed right before World War I, and the Frisco was separated from the rest of the Yoakam operations to become the Gulf Coast Lines which 10 years later was folded into the Missouri Pacific. Yoakum had intended to run over the Frisco to New Orleans to get his gulf port access, but with this gone, the Rock Island’s Louisiana lines struggled along as a bit player until abandonment in the late 1970s.

My interest in this is that the Rock in those days intertwined with my own railroad of interest, the Missouri Pacific, in several locations in Louisiana, and I therefore on my layout operate some Rock Island equipment from time to time.

Let’s hear from those who are interested in the Rock Island as a subject for their layout. I always thought it was as worthy of subject for modeling, as was the Santa Fe of the union pacific, but after radiating from Chicago, it was a spreading network that didn’t have a very definitive terminus at the other end like the Santa Fe, Union Pacific or the Southern Pacific …. for example, ending in Tucumcari, New Mexico.

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My interest in the Rock Island stems from living in Oklahoma. Being born at the very beginning of the 21st Century means I never saw any of the locomotives running, but given I lived in close proximity to I-35 and the areas the Rock traveled, I had plenty of opportunities growing up to see its remnants. I remember that if you were driving southbound out of Stillwater to Perkins, OK, there was an old Rock Island caboose on the side of the highway between a gas station and the Harley-Davidson motorcycle dealership.

I don’t think my fascination with the forlorn railroad began until a few years ago. When I was younger, my interest was in Santa Fe, UP, and NYC since those were the DC models I had growing up. In 2015 or 2016, I was gifted a Bachmann 2-8-0 Consolidation locomotive for Christmas. It was my first “adult” train and it bore the Rock Island name. Fast-forward to late-2023 after graduating college with grad school beginning, I realized that I had a reasonable amount of disposable income. I started working on my first real 4x8 and wanted to start collecting more equipment. I wasn’t sure what railroad I wanted to focus on, but knew I wanted the layout to be based in Oklahoma and depict scenes I saw growing up. I knew I wanted the layout to be DCC-operated, and that the sole DCC locomotive I had was the RI Consolidation. I remembered that the Rock Island ran through Oklahoma, and reading up on its rich history within the state (and elsewhere) solidified my interest in it. I can’t think of another railroad that had well over a dozen liveries in a 30-year time frame.

Due to my love of steam, I have decided to model the Rock in the 40s and 50s where I can use a mix of diesel and steam power. RI’s early diesels sport some gorgeous liveries, and their steam locomotives are quite nice. RI’s Northerns are gorgeous. The 4x8 isn’t based on a town or city in Oklahoma, but if/when I have the space and money to make a larger layout, I’m hoping to base it on the Enid to Ponca City branch line. My parents moved to Ponca a few years ago, so since I knew Santa Fe went through there, I decided to see if there were any other railroads that went through the city. Sure enough they have a depot for the line! Enid saw interchange with the RI, ATSF, and Frisco, while Ponca City saw interchange with the RI and a different ATSF route, still used by BNSF today.

Shame what became of the railroad (blaming Penn Central’s bankruptcy taking up 6 years of the ICC’s time), but I’m glad history, heritage units, and the CRI&P LLC keeps its legacy alive.

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Here are some very useful information I received from someone today:

What the above items told me were the engines that ran in Louisiana and Arkansas. There are a few larger engines involved in the form of 4-6-2’s and 2-8-2’s, but it appears that 2-8-0’s did most of the work.

Bachmann did the Rock Island modeler a great favor by issuing their consolidation as a Rock Island engine several times with several different road numbers.

Here’s mine on my incomplete layout at our Mississippi house.

My other Rock Island engines are two MacArthur’s, one by Bachmann and the other by BLI. Both were involved in an accidental fall and are in the middle of being rehabilitated at the moment. And even though I never run diesels, I still own a few, one being a Bachmann GP7in the beautiful original black, red and white striped scheme.

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Bachmann really is a godsend for workhorse locomotives.

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Those appear to be from the late Lloyd Stagner’s book, “Rock Island Motive Power, 1933 to 1955.” A very good book of the late steam-early diesel era.

He did a follow up soft cover book, “Rock Island Steam Finale, 1947 to 1954.” Regular steam operations ended in 1953, but in the spring of 1954 some steam switch engines were fired up to switch Des Moines area yard trackage during a flood.

Jeff

Look at this prototype photo of a Rock Island consolidation numbered in the same class as the Bachmann engine. Some may think the model is too different, but
at my advanced age, it looks just fine.

Here’s another consolidation, outfitted with one of the unique Rock Island bread box tenders.

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The “loaf of bread” tenders are super interesting. I know there are brass “loaf of bread” tenders in HO scale. I wonder if there are any resin or 3D printable models that could slot into a Bachmann tender mount…

I’ll get some photos of my full roster over the weekend. I’m quite content with it, though if I end up getting some Budd coaches for Christmas, I’ll be looking for an E6 or E8 to haul them. What I have are as follows:

  • Bachmann Spectrum 2-8-0 Consolidation #2123
  • Bachmann 2-8-2 USRA Mikado #2319
  • Athearn Genesis 4-8-2 MT-4 pre-Skyline casing (I wanted a Mountain, and SP’s look the part! It’ll be renumbered to #4001 since I recently found out the first two Mountains had Vanderbilt tenders)
  • BLI F7A + F7B (dummy) #103 & #105 in the lovely red and black
  • Proto2000 GP9 #1313 (probably out of era but eh)

Here’s a photo of #4001…


…and a color photo of one of two M-50s painted in this beautiful red!

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I don’t model the Rock Island, but I sure do like it!

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My Rock Island Collection:

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This looks like a delivery photo of a brand new
2-8-2 with Vanderbilt tender

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All three of these Rock Island buildings are within an hour of my house, but in different directions.

This is the old Rock Island station in Lincoln, Nebraska, and is now a bank:


https://placestogobuildingstosee.blogspot.com/2013/06/chicago-rock-island-pacific-railroad.html

Spring Creek Model Railroad store in Deshler, Nebraska, is just several blocks from the old Rock Island ROW:

This Rock Island station in Fairbury, Nebraska, is a local museum:

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Historical quiz: who can identify the location this long-gone rock Island structure. This is a screenshot from its appearance in 1970s movie. It flashed by quickly and the next time the movie came in and grabbed this screenshot of it.

Extra points if you can name the movie.

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P.S. It took me a very long inquiry on another forum to identify this building. Someone finally correctly identified by adjacent structures which I’ve cropped out, and using Sanborn maps as well

Rock Island Map

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The Rock Island possessed some unique running power. The AB6 is certainly the most unusual:


Based on photographic evidence, it seems it wore at least four different schemes:

  1. The Rocket livery of the 40s
  2. A subdued Rocket livery that was only maroon and silver
  3. Full maroon with white lining
  4. Maroon with a yellow front

Jimmy Lambert, an HO scale modeler in VA, made a great video going over the history of the AB6 and provided some footage of how this locomotive ran prototypically.

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I currently have this RI Caboose. Bought it on ebay last year. It would go great with a Walthers Proto Rock Island GP7. I’m still looking for one…

I might just model a short Rock Island Freight representing the Rock Island from 1948-1958…

Those Roundhouse “Outside Braced Wooden Crummies” are very hard to find…

Here is the current Walthers Proto GP7 Release:

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Funny you say that, as I bought that exact same caboose on eBay the other day - should arrive in the mail tomorrow or Sunday! The new Walthers GP7 looks phenomenal and it’s on my radar.

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Perhaps one was sitting on ebay for quite some time until you purchased it…

Will you use it to model a Rock Island Era Transition Freight?