they are 8835 a 0.4.4. loco with tender in green and black front. quite old.
1059 a 0.6.4 bachman loco with tender made in hong kong black with red stripes.
4801 2.6.2 bachman no tender, missing, in green and black front.
have searched the web for ages but cannot find anything.
have identified all the other 25 or so had them a while now and have set up a loft layout quite large.
i do have a digital photo of them but thier not very clear.
thanks for your help