I just found this article today. I see now that there are a few other posts about this so go this one can be deleted.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070502/sc_nm/space_shuttle_train_dc
Same as in the M&B wreck thread below.
LC
Opps I didnt see that before I made this post. Bergie you can remove this one, Multiple threads not needed Sorry
Massey
You may not have the capability to delete the thread, but you might at least edit the title to remove the mention of UP. The derailment was in Alabama, where UP doesn’t go. Even if the entire train were made up of UP equipment it wouldn’t be their wreck.
I have read 3 different articles that state a UP train was the one that derailed. Just because they dont own tracks there, or normally run in that area does not mean that it was not their engines or crew. I dont know that part to be fact but I do know that the parts were made where UP runs and they were the ones that were hired to move the parts to FL. This may be CSX or NS trackage that cause it but the engines were UP. I am not saying that UP is at fault, I dont really care who is at fault it was train news so I made a post. I see that there are a few posts about this on these forums so we dont need to clog up the server with 100 threads of the same thing. Again Bergie could you delete this for me please.
Please don’t try to tell a railroader where trains of his railroad run. If the train was in Alabama, as everythging I’ve read has indicated, it was not a UP crew or a UP train.
I’m in favor of this thread being deleted as well–but until it is, I repeat, the error in the title should be corrected.
For the record, the derailment occurred on the Meridian & Bigbee Railroad.
Massey, Carl is right. The UP does not run trains anywhere in Alabama, nor send crews there. If the consist had UP power up front, it is only because someone who does run in Alabama on those rails got them in the pool.
According to your thinking, every person wearing a NY Yankees hat plays for the Yankees.
“Meridian and Bigbee of Meridian, Miss., was hauling the equipment and owns the trestle, said Mike Williams, a spokesman for Bigbee parent Genesee & Wyoming Inc. of Greenwich, Conn…” said the Houston Chronicle.
As the man has politely asked TWICE, go back to your original post and please remove the UP reference from the subject line.
Some people just are not with the program[:(!]
I changed it… OK there.
Now I didnt mean to sound like it HAD to be a UP crew or power if I worded it wrong then I appologize for my error. I only read articles on yahoo, cnn and I think ABC websited that had information on this derailment and they all 3 stated it was a UP train and they all also mentioned that it was the M&B bridge that the accident occured. I posted what I knew based on the information I had from the sources above. I dont want to start a fight here OK I am man enough to admit my errors. I am a rail fan and I dont know who owns what tracks in what area or what happens when trains go from one companys rails to another, this stuff I have not had much experience in so I dont know. I do know that roads share power and you will find alot of different locos all over the place, Locally here I found a NS train with NS, BNSF, CSX all Dash-9s pulling an intermodal out of the port of Norfolk, so a UP loco at the head of another’s train would not supprise me at all. I just went by the articles I read. I am sorry for the errors.
Apology accepted–and thanks for changing the title.
There are a lot of journalists (Poppa Zit is most assuredly not one of them) who know nearly nothing about railroads, yet are in a position to say what they want without fear (maybe a bad word) of correction. It’s almost as bad as people thinking railroad companies are going to merge because their power is seen together or on each other’s railroad, or (as was reported in LA and accepted as gospel) that an engineer was backing up his commuter train at high speed, just because the engine was at the rear of the train that hit the Jeep (I had to explain the push-pull concept to my California uncle because of that faulty piece of reporting).
We’re all here to learn. Some of us have learned our railroading from experiences and sources in existence before there ever was an Internet, but we’re still learning nonetheless.
Thank you, Mr. Shaver.
I think one of the things we can learn here is that we cannot believe everything we read, no matter how credible the source seems to be.
I have found so many glaring errors in doing historical research on the Internet that I hardly use it as a final source anymore. And far too many websites copy and propagate these errors, to the point which their frequency and longevity eventually convinces most people to think that the errors are indeed facts.
A terrific example would be Wikipedia. It may be a place to get some additional ideas about sources on a subject, but the fact that anyone with a computer can edit the listings scares me.
PZ