Check out this storyhttp://www.burnabynow.com/issues03/093203/news/093203nn8.html
Interesting story. Try explaining that one to your boss.
Surprised they havent thought of using an ulrasonic scanner or a magnetic imager to see if anything is underground there.
Where are we? I’m guessing Canada somewhere, but couldn’t find any clues. And, yes, I think some detectors could be used to make for an interesting treasure hunt.
But wouldn’t a locomotive all steamed up, disappearing into a lake or wet area, leave some telltale wisps of steam behind it for a while?
I kinda wondered about that too. even if the loco WAS left unatttended for two hours, the fire would likely still be going. When the loco sank into the bog, if it went down straight, the bog mire would have up from under the firebox , thru the grating and smothering it without risking a boiler explosion, but it would have to sink, tracks and all, almost 15 feet to dissappear completely. I suspect more likely the engine would have toppled over onto its side, sinking deeper under its own weight than just the tracks alone. Plus no disiplinary hearing for losing an entire locomotive? Its not like they misplaced a shovel now is it. Loss a company car and see what the ramifications are…
Just thought of this…If its IS there, the low oxygen bog environment would likely have preserved it in excellent condition, If they dug it up theres a high degree of likelyhood it could be returned to steam or at least display with only relatively minor work. Wouldnt that be something?
Burnaby is next to Vancouver, BC.
I’m sure the technology exists to verify whether there is something as large as a steam locomotive there.
Burnaby is located in British Columbia, in western Canada. It’s located just
east of metropolitan Vancouver, on the edge of the Fraser River valley. Lots of interesting
old railroad stories have come out of lower British Columbia.
There is a story like this on the Bearskin bike trail just south of Minocqua, WI. I believe it’s almost the same type of story?
Homer J.Simpson said it many times: D’OH![B)] BTW there is a B&M pacific,P2a 3666 at the bottom of Portsmouth Harbor, but don’t go diving there as there is an active Naval base there, and they won’t allow non-naval personnel to dive there. Now, anyone in the USN willing to go in there (or, have seen it) and find out what kind of shape 3666 is in? It has been there a while, and she went off an open draw at speed, so it cannot be too good.
If a WWII B-24 can be brought up from deep within a glacier a piece at a time, a train
CAN rise from the muck…
Sounds like a job for the guy who found the Titanic. “Raise the Pacific!!”
In the area where I grew up, there is a story about a locomotive and a couple of cars going off of a bridge over the South Canadian River and sinking in the quicksand. I don’t remember if the line was Rock Island, Frisco, or KO&G, all of which crossed that river at different places in my home county. I do know from experience while in high school that there was quicksand in the bed of that river. I suspect that the stories that I heard as a child were just urban (rural?) legend.
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There is supposed to be a train sunk in crystal lake adjacent to camp Scout Haven near Holland NY …at least that is always the reason given as to where the locomotive tire they use for th camp dinner bell came from.
Slightly related to this topic is the old Lehigh Valley port interchange in Buffalo “Tifft Farm”. It is a nature preserve today but it was the Lehigh’s trans-shipment point at lake Erie. My father in law told me that in the thirties a lake freighter loaded with new Chryslers caught fire while bearthed there and sank but was never recovered, he said on a still day you could still see the tops of the cars on the freighter’s deck. I have heard at least twice from Lake Freighter buffs" that this is a true story. When they built the nature preserve at the location of the long closed Tifft Farm trans-shipment center they filled the area with soil, thus an entire lake freighter filled with autos is barried in South Buffalo.
Ground-penetrating radar could probably do the job.
I don’t know about Holland, NY but interestingly enough there is part of a train sunken in Crystal Lake in Crystal Lake, IL. The lake used to be harvested for ice blocks in the winter and had it’s own rail spur.
Mike
Shortly before WW1 a loco fell down a big hole at Lindal, North West England.
There was a lot of iron ore mining activity in the area and as the loco, which was switching a mine yard, passed over a certain spot the ground subsided under it.
The crew were able to jump clear but the logistics of recovering the loco, which was a fairly elderly 0-6-0, proved too much for the Furness Railway so they just left it where it was and filled the hole with spoil.
Every so often it’s suggested that at attempt at recovery is made but the general concensus is that it will have sunk into deeper mine workings so there, I suspect, it will stay.
There are also a number of British “8F” class loco’s at the bottom of the Bristol Channel. They were being shipped to Europe as deck cargo to help with war reparations after 1945 when the ship they were aboard was caught in a violent storm.
The captain had no choice but to cut them loose in order to lower the centre of gravity on the ship and save it.