TECH 4 280 DUAL POWER

Hello, gang.

I JUST (two hours ago) purchased a new MRC Tech 4 280 Dual Power (2 throttles, one power pack). It was $71.00, so I figured it would be decent for what I’m using it for (running 2 trains at once, two separate/isolated main lines).

Sadly, the power output is poor. Even turned all the way up to “100,” the engines are going at a rate my 45 year-old MRC Throttle Pack sends one at 1/2 power. I tried several different engines (one at a time) w/ the same result on this new unit. Granted, the “full” speed is realistic, but it would be nice to have some reserve power *Note: engine test was w/o any rolling stock, over flat area).

What gives? Anyone else have this issue? Had the same problem w/ an old Troller dual unit - crank it up, train barely goes. Is it because the output on the new MRC is only 8.5 vA??? I compared it to the single throttle MRC Techs and their output is much higher. Unknown what it is on the ol’ reliable 1960’s Throttlepack.

Please help before I return this junk! I’m steaming (no pun intended), as I was looking forward to wiring up my new layout!!!

Thank you, as always.

Matt

How big is the layout that you are trying to run this on

It’s 18 long by 8 wide. I ran the engines on the side I had the feeder hooked up to(nothing’s wired permenantly yet). Speed was the same regardless if it was right by the feeder connection, or across the way…

I have one also, and yes it does not give the same power to the track that my old single transformers do. I sure hope some one can answer/solve your question/problem.
ennout

Are you certain a “pulse power” mode isn’t turned on? That would supply only half power. I had a different MRC power pack that had such a switch. I was continually switch it to pulse mode and then scratch my head with the loco’s wouldn’t go.

I have the same power pack you are talking about Matt, I picked it up a train show for $10 last year. It doesnt have much power, and the trains wont go very fast. There is no pulse power switch, But since I use DCC I just use it to power my switch machines.

I think it was designed this way. I have both Tech II and Tech IV dualpacks and indeed the older Tech II produces more power.

Long story short, modern can-motor equipped locomotives need less power than the older open-type motors common before about 1990 did. So I think MRC figured they could lower the total output and allow for greater control - that is, the same 300-degree control knob going from 0 to say 9 volts allows greater control than one going from 0 to 12 volts.

Thank you all for the feedback. I’ll be looking for a pair of Tech IIs on eBay!

I have one of these units (Tech 4 - 280) and it works fine. Of course I model in N-scale, so the power requirements are a lot less.

The only thing that I noticed is that both outputs are not calibrated the same. So when a train is passing from one block to another (powered by the other controller), I have to make sure the second knob is set a little higher or there will be a noticeable drop in speed.

I also use a Tech 4 280 on my ho scale layout. If i crank it up trains run way to fast for prototypical look. I have it blocked & feeders about every 3 ft. I have not checked output but some engines just react differantly. So no proplem for me. Hope you find out what is wrong.

Larry

I am SO glad I read this thread. I saw this product on Walthers.com and I wanted to run two trains and this seemed like the perfect fit. But now I am concerned. I started in the hobby as a kid in 1974, so I have all my old equipment, including the Troller TwinTranspak 2.5, if any of you older guys remember those. It still works, but I figured I should update my equipment, especially since I am building a whole new layout anyway. So my question is…what IS the best power pack out there?

If you want to run two trains, and you’re building a new layout anyway, I’d certainly consider putting that power pack money toward DCC.

Ok, I’ll buy that. Then what does everyone recommend? There are SO many choices…