unknown steam drivers

need to find out what these drivers look like

are they for a drag type locomotive

what type shell fits this thing

thanks for the help

These look like drivers from a Japanese loco. By that, I mean both the model and prototype are Japanese (and the model is from the early 50’s). My guess is that the engine for which this is the chassis was a JNR D-62 2-8-4, judging from the way the chassis is constructed. Below is a link to a picture of a D-62.

http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/noz/sl/ed62.html

I have no idea who the model company was who made the thing unless it was a very early Tenshodo.

Andre

hey that D62 is awsome I like to find some better shots thanks I had no idea

looks like a 4-8-4

That’s a mechanism for any one of four classes of JNR steam locomotive, apparently built by one of the smaller hobby manufacturers (many of which were, and are, store-front operations) in the early post-WWII era. It is almost certainly not a Tenshodo (drivers are WAY too crude - Tenshodo was primarily a jewelry manufacturer.)

Possible prototypes:

D51 class 2-8-2, the “steam geep” of the JNR, used for freight, and passenger (on my prototype route and others in steeply-graded territory.) There were well over a thousand built, in four major subgroups, two of which were seriously ugly. The first group, built in 1937, had a skyline casing that looked like an inverted canoe. It hid an elesco-type feedwater heater mounted lengthwise between the stack and the sandbox, and continued over the sandbox and steam dome. The third group, built during WWII, were also minus on aesthetic points - the builders didn’t have time or materials to make nice rounded shapes, so the ends of the casing over sandbox and steam dome were chopped off square. The other two groups were attractive, well-balanced and very successful.

D61 class 2-8-4, a D51 modified with a 4-wheel trailing truck and rearranged springing to be lighter on the rail of branches with substandard construction. Very few were built.

D52 class 2-8-2, the heavy big brother of the D51, built in the latter days of WWII. Too heavy for most JNR routes, it was used on main lines that were early candidates for electrification. 20 were modified into D62 class 2-8-4’s (photo link above,) others had their boilers jacked up and 4-6-4 mechanisms rolled underneath, producing the beautiful C62 class high-speed passenger locomotives. The rest were scrapped as they became surplus to requirements - ten years and more before the demise of the lighter D51’s. (I remember the train I was riding on the San-Yo Hon Sen in 1959 getting a D52 pusher over one of the grades enroute. The

thx tomikawaTT

think I paid $15

I will keep a look out for this type locomotive

but I dont think that it will be easy

K

well it looks like I got the maker of this 2-8-4 it’s a winton

It is an old Brass Winton Berkshire Kit

check out this http://cgi.ebay.com/Brass-Winton-2-8-4-Berkshire-Loco-w-Tender-Kit-in-Box_W0QQitemZ6055274431QQihZ009QQcategoryZ484QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

someone tell me if they know of a boiler that will fit this set of drivers from the winton

check out the cylinder I just got for $12

and tube pilot casting

K

well this is yet another project that is in the works

check out the catsup treatment

seems to work ok

stop me if i’m boring you

well the cylinder I just got looks like its way to small

must be for an 0-6-0

ah its the first one that we learn on

K

K,Check these Cary parts…There is also a boiler/ cab assembly on page 4.

http://www.bowserorders.com/.sc/ms/cat/HO%20Cary

hello brakie

nice detail parts

wow love to have them all

but at $2 to $5 each yikes

I did check that boiler but I was trying to keep this all brass

the drivers are and the parts must be out there someplace

but thanks for trying I like checking out cast parts

Ken

Budliner;

I think you hit the nail right smack on the head with your identification. Sure looks like an old Winton something or another and a 2-8-4 does fit the cut of the frame perfectly.

I never built one of these; I began building die cast metal kits in the late '60s and I pretty well settled onto Hobbytown, Cary/Mantua, and Bowser. About 1972, however, I saw one of these which belonged to a friend of mine and my juices began to flow; I made some inquiries of various companies about whether anyone might have a stray kit gathering dust on a shelf in the back room; I either was met with silence or the response was negative - I often wonder what happened to all those SASEs I included with my inquiries.

I got out of HO in the early '80s; I will tell you this, however, if I were still in HO and one of these were to come my way I’d gobble it up in an instant - and I think I have mastered enough craft skills over the years that I could build a boiler for it.

well its a a nice model

but I do think it looks funny with the small parts

nice detail

what do you think

I just put some wheels for trucks in place for now

Ken