Will the “rule making body” pay for the new prime movers and radiators that this will create a need for?
Don’t expect them to. And don’t expect the RR’s to shut down their units when the temps are too low.
The board in question tried to do the same thing to OTR truckers make us shut down our engines when we were sleeping. Ever try sleeping without air at 120 can not be done.
I do hope that UP and BNSF prevail – it is quite high time that someone, somewhere, gave these so-called environmentalist Hitlers there comeuppance.
Aren’t the newer generation of EMD’s (710) and GE’s (Dash9 and GEVO) already compliant as far as emissions, producing far less pollutants than the SD40-2s and GE Dash 8 series?
Sounds like things are still hunky-dory up in the ivory towers…
It’s California, what can be said[?][?][?][?]… With appologies to some of the forum members…There must be something in the air that creates the wierdness there, problem is, some people get it and some don’t…as in San Francisco, the capital of Granolaland…
Sam
What does San Francisco have to do with it? It was a Southern California agency ( http://www.aqmd.gov/ ), not one from the Bay Area ( http://www.baaqmd.gov/ ). It certainly wasn’t the California Air Resources Board, the state agency. http://www.arb.ca.gov/homepage.htm .
IOW, it was a local agency overstepping its bounds. Happens everywhere. Just like when NJ Transit first tried to ban, then license railfan photography (must be something in New Jersey air that caused THAT particular lunacy).
Need I mention that Alabama only within the past few years removed a law from its books that banned interracial marriage?
Andre
[:0]WHAT[:0]? Did I just miss something?
Allan.
Definitions:
California: Cereal state, full of fruits, nuts, and flakes.
New Jersey: Too many rats in a box experiment.
Alabama: 20 to 30 years behind the rest of the country.
Mississippi: They missed the 20th century.
Texas: Shrub state, what can I say?
Florida: Old fart state that can’t figure out how to vote. Most of the rats that managed to escaped New Jersey.
And the list goes on…[(-D][(-D]
A local board can more easily be overridden by the state agency when things get unreasonable, especially when the railroads have a workable, reasonable agreement in place with the state agency. The local board is probably playing to the local voters and politicians to justify their existence, knowing full well that these proposals will be quashed.
With all of the Land Bruisers (Hummers, Escalades, Yukons, Expeditions etc) running around out there at 10mph in their famous traffic jams, they must do something to prevent themselves from choking on their own excess.
I would have to say that automobile idiling on the freeways is a much bigger problem.
Sounds like another useless government agency at work.
Next thing you know, they will want everyone to stop farting.
Heh.
The only time I did not idle if there was a occupied home a 100 feet away and had a alternative place like a hotel room.
In the wintertime between Oct1 thru Apr 15 that engine is on 24/7 If they ticketed me pffth. I pay the fine. (Never did happen)
That is for trucking. There are railroads who “Sleep” the desiels occasionally idling away and that does not bother me one bit.
Now there are alternatives such as on board gen sets but no one is willing to pay the penalty in cost and weight.
As they say in Joisey: “You don’t know the half of it.”
Old joke from the days of the Ivan Boesky and Mike Milken trials:
Q: Why does New York have all the investment bankers while New Jersey has all the toxic waste dumps?
A: New Jersey had first choice.[(-D][(-D][(-D]
Andre
And why do New Yorkers always have such a bad attitude?
Because they know that the light at the end of the tunnel is only New Jersey…
I agree with the railroads on this one. Idling should be viewed as a necessary function of economic commerce (keeps the fuel primed, the air brake hoses filled, the A/C going, the cab heater going, etc), and the percentage of so-called air pollution that is emitted from idling locomotives, or farm equipment, or construction equipment, even most trucks is so miniscule as to not even be measurable in general proximity.
What this nation needs is a tax on environmental extremism, with the revenues generated going to subsidize the extra work companies/cities have to do to keep up with the green tape.
So how are you going to tax a governmental entity, in this case the one that made the ruling on idling locomotives?
The ruling on locomotive idling was stupid, but if you grew up in SoCal during the 50’s and 60’s you could understand why someone might go overboard. When I was in high school, we lived at the foot of Mt Baldy. There were very few days of the year when you could actually see the mountain (immediately after a rainstorm or during a Santa Ana). Now it’s visible most of the year from quite a distance thanks in part to California’s strict emissions standards.
Andre