I have some Walthers Amtrak cars. They recommend the Walthers lighting kit #933-1049. According to their website 933-1049 is for DC. Is there a lighting kit for the Walthers non superliners that will work withh dcc?
Original poster probably was talking about Superliners from Amtrak, not streamliner cars converted for use by Amtrak.
In this case it’s this kit, and it works for both DC and DCC.
For streamliner, I’m actually leaning toward use of DC kits, even if I use DCC. I installed DCC kits in 6 of my cars, and while they look nice stationary, they flicker like Christamas lights when train is moving - really poor design by Walthers. DC kits, will take the current by DCC, and while buzzing a little, they do not flicker as much thanks to capacitors that they use to provide constant lighting on the DC track. They are also brighter than the DCC kit, which might be a bad or a good thing depending on your perspective. I stumbled on DC kit since Wlathers don’t make DCC kit for their Dome cars.
I am replying to this message in contrast to your statement. I have several of these kits (DCC) in my passenger cars, as well as fellow members of my RR club. We are in Florida, where the environment is dusty and sandy all the time. Our building is a storage / industrial type with no carpet.
In our experience the flicker is minimal; almost non existent. Flicker can exist if you have:
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Intermittent contact between the truck screws (used as pickups) and the wipers on the bottom of the car. (filing the burrs on the screws smooth increases your contact surface and reliability)
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Poor electrical contact between the track and wheels
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Poor electrical contact between the wheelsets and the sideframes.
Number 2 - whether or not you think the track is clean by visual examination, in many cases it is not. Also an oxidation can occur on the rails that you cannot see.
Circuits with capacitors mask the problem; not fix it. Intermittents due to dirty track can lead to
OP’s Question
the DC streamliner light kits do work on DCC, but they buzz, and draw around .2 - .25 amps for each car.
two locos and eight to ten cats will max out a 2.5 amp system
Hey, how about this LED unit?
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/475-100ICL01
It’s more prototypical for streamliners as most had fluorescents for primary lighting and the current draw is pretty low.
at three times the cost
Yes, but nothing wrong with showing it. He might or might not be interested in it, but sometimes modelers might be willing to pay a little more for an item that appears more prototypical.
I have one of the Walthers light kits and was disappointed when I found out that it gives off yellow (incandescent) lighting instead of white or blue-white lighting.
Speaking from experience, I’ve ridden a number of passenger trains with streamlined cars and as far back as I can remember to the late 1960s, they all had fluoresents as their primary lighting with incandecents as spot or secondary lights. I plan on getting a Walthers fluorescent light kit for installation in one of my Walthers Budd diners. [;)]
Yep, indeed the OP was talking about streamlined kit, not Superliner. Oh well. At least I stirred up some discussion
Thanx for the replies,the one I decided on is not in stock, i have plenty time for it to be back in stock being i’m the slowest layout builder in the world.
Alrighty then, now are we talking about Heritage stremliners though? Or the AmCan cars?