Do not usually bid e-bay on weekends as too many bidding for good deals. Glad I checked the site.
I have been looking for this version with these drivers for a long time now. It was a really good find.
Beautiful, Don.
Good for you.
Who is the manufacturer?
Rich
Sure looks nice.
It is one of the PFM from the 70’s, this version has the can motor, I have the Hudson in the same paint scheme, at first glance they look like twins. If it runs as good as the Hudson does I will be a happy camper.
Now, I will need to increase the number of my CN passenger cars, good thing Rapido is producing the CN Super Continental in the green and black livery.
Nice looking loco, Don, and one of my favourites.
Incidentally, all of the U-1-fs were built with boxpok drivers.
Wayne
I could not help it, but I found another CN steamer for sale.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m620/northern10/CN%20Roster%20Additions/CN4-8-4U2d.jpg
A candidate for my new spray booth.
My brass reference book indicates that this is one of 50 models made, 25 unpainted and 25 painted, so had to go for it. Until I can study it in detail it looks like my 4-8-4 U2g True Train version.
My CN roster keeps growing. I am just waiting for the release of the Rapido CN FP9A units and the engine roster will be complete.
I forgot that these were called Confederations by CN and not Northerns.
The latest issue of “CN Lines” published by the CNR Historical Association (V16n3) has exposed this as a complete and utter myth. The very first locomotive of the series was indeed named “Confederation” to honour 50 years since the first 4 provinces united to form Canada. It is likely the only CNR locomotive to carry a name, although of course back in the 19th Century naming did happen on predecessor railways. CNR referred to it as a Northern type from the beginning as proved by a number of contemporary reports.
The myth has been perpetuated in a number of articles and books by more modern authors; they are merely repeating the error of the first writer to make that erroneous assumption. This is an excellent example of why primary sources are critical to ensuring historical accuracy.
I had also been misled into believing the myth. “Common Knowledge” can be wrong. Another instance was the former widespread belief that the dynamic brake blister was the difference between the GP7 and GP9, despite the reality that it was an option on both models.
John
This is the first version released of the CN 4-8-4’s. I thnk there are more sources supporting the CN’s designation of name “Confederation” than there are contradicting the name in favour of a “Northern”.
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What? And you’d forego the FPA/FPB-4s, the best looking passenger diesels the CNR ever owned? [swg]
Wayne
Wayne,
I should have mentioned I have these in both the CP and CN livery allready. Rapido will also be doing these engines in 2013. I may replace the existing Proto units when the Rapido units are released.
In the interior of BC it was rare indeed to see any EMD units, the Alco units seemed to be the norm.
I must admit though that I do prefer the EMD F units.
Sorry, Don, I wasn’t aware that Proto had done those locos - all I’ve seen from them is regular FAs/FBs.
Long before they were commercially-available in plastic, I built two using the old Model Power FA/FB-2 units, although I lettered mine for my freelance road. The modifications were done from photos of the real ones, and are fairly accurate within the constraints of the original model. I did err on the steam generators, though, as I didn’t have a good photo showing that detail.
They’re too modern for my late '30s layout, so a friend has them now. He’s planning to buy the new Rapido units, and I’ve offered to buy back my units, as I put a lot of effort into the conversions.
The 260 weighs 23.0oz., while the 262 tips the scales at 25.5, so they’re very solid pullers
Wayne
There may be more sources claiming this, but most of them are just repeating an earlier misconception. Just as you have!
The fact is that the earliest reference they found for the claim that CN designated them the Confederation type was in the late 1950s. The books and magazine articles that most of us use as sources are all from recent times, and based on the same recent publications. (The researchers admit that they too perpetuated the myth in their own earlier writings.)
On the other hand, Railway Age for June 4, 1927, reports on CN’s purchase of 4-8-4 locomotives “These locomotives, which the railway will designate the Northern type”. That text was written before CN 6100 was delivered. A picture of it in September of the same year shows the “Northern” type plate on the cylinder jacket, and the “Confederation” name plate on the running board. The researchers list a number of other press reports from 1927, all of which clearly refer to them as the Northern type.
John
John
I will continue calling these Confederations, along with the majority.
I like the Canadian ring to the name.
The models of the U2g’s and my recent U2-b are the smoothest running locomotives in my roster.
CN’s site refers to these as Confederations, I will go with the owners and you can go with your source.