Sure. What would others suggest.
I love that guy, and that song, and I don’t even drink beer…
Sheldon
There are voltage dropoff charts online. I would think you would have to go a very, very long way to be worried about using 14g wire.
I only used 12g because I got it for a song. I went to the industrial electric shop and asked for 14g and the guy asked if I could use 12g instead for about a tenth of the price. He gave me the wire off two of those 5’ spools just so he could hang new spools for the next days rush. I think I ended up with about 600’ as he just peeled off what was left. Timing is everything.[(-D]
I used 14ga. on my bus, and I even twisted the black and red together to make it easier to handle. I haven’t had any problems, but I have a small layout, about 50’ main line run, “L” shaped dog bone.
Power supply is close to the middle, I did it in blocks, to use DC to start with, Didn’t use common rail, isolated each rail at blocks.
Made it easy to go to DCC. Just unhook the DC pack and hook up the DCC power.
I think I used 20 or 22 ga for feeders.
Mike.
got it, thanks. ok, the run refers to the wiring, not a section of the track
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That is much better than Garth Brooks’ version.
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-Kevin
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It depends on your tolerance for voltage drop over distance with a nominal voltage of 15, 5 amps (in my case), and with a specific distance in mind, single phase, race run, copper wire. I asked the calculator I used for no more than a 4% drop in voltage over 20 feet, and the result was 14 gauge.
While similar, they are actually different songs.
Todd snider wrote his song, the Garth song was written by Kent Blazy, Kim Williams, Amanda Williams, Keith Anderson, and George Ducas.
Sheldon
Todd’s one of my favorites. Without buying his music, I only hear him on Sirius XM Outlaw Country. He’s also made a few appearances on the Bob and Tom radio show,
He does, sometimes, provoke some controversy in his music, but don’t they all?
I’ve only heard his version of his song.
I guess we’ve covered the OP’s question on what is a “run”. I thought it was pretty obvious.
Mike.
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OK. I thought it might be like Louie Louie, where there are seriously drastic differences from some versions to others, but they are considered the same song.
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-Kevin
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That went sideways pretty fast. [D)]
I found a few good references with solid DCC bus info. Basically NCE’s guide for HO recommended 14 AWG for runs up to 50 (leg from booster) and 12 AWG for longer runs up to 100 ft.
I don’t think so Kevin. The Garth Brooks and George Jones song is nothing like Todds original beerrun song.
Go find them on YT and see for yourself.
We’ve gone from wire runs to beer runs! [(-D]
Mike.
PS. There, I’ve RUN this thread on RUNS into page 2.
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Mike, I was talking about all the different versions of Louie Louie being considered the “same song”, even though in some instances they bear nearly no resemblance to one another.
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Sheldon explained that Garth Brooks Beer Run is a completely different song.
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-Kevin
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Well, we enjoy our conversations here in the coffee clutch. No one gets hurt, and I learned a little something.
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Yea, we just ran out of ways to the answer the OP’s question. Anything that has “run” in it, is fair game. [swg]
Mike.
As I stated in my first reply, fifth post from the top…and I’m not even a DCC guy.
Wayne
[(-D] OK, as long as I have your permission Mike[swg]
When you give your wife a hug and your waffle stomper boot cleat catches on her nylon and when you walk away, … Oops!
That really did happen you know[(-D]
TF