Oops, you are quite right, it was F2a. The F1a had 75" drivers same as the Hudsons.
CP only built 5 F2as . CN too only built 5 locos with 80" drivers, their only Hudsons.
CN Charlie
Now that is interesting. I have been a forum member since 2004, but I never knew about that function. I like it. [Y]
Rich
The OP’s question is highly subjective, as have been a great percentage of the replies, at least the ones I tried to drag myself through. Which is to be expected.
Only the people/person who made the list have those subjective answers.
No offense to our Canadian friends, Canada had great steam locos, but I’m not buying any. And my reasons are also complelely subjective.
I don’t collect random “famous” locomotive models, I don’t own a model of a UP BigBoy, or a long list of other locos the manufacturers keep cranking out.
I only buy models that fit the theme of my layout. I don’t model Canada…
So unless Rapido makes a B&O P7d, or some other jewel of railroading in the Mid Atlantic, they are off my radar.
As for the direction of this thread or this forum, I find myself less motivated to read or post anything every day.
Sheldon
You repeat these kinds of assertions (I don’t buy, I don’t do, I don’t this or that) over and over and over and over - over how many years in how many topics? Wouldn’t it be easier to just put those statement in a signature and save the trouble of typing it out umpteen times in umpteen topics? [I]
Rapido often, maybe always, posts a Master Class article for each new locomotive they build. Until they do that for each of the Icons of Canadian Steam you can’t be sure what Rapido thinks makes an Icon. Technically, since Rapido chose the marketing name only they know for sure what they mean by it.
https://rapidotrains.com/hudson-master-class
Given their penchant for Canadian style humour I’d wait for the Master Class article for each planned Icon.
Remember that “icon” can mean “representative” - in other words, “typical”. It doesn’t necessarily mean “famous”. I think Rapido is trying to build engines that were well known Canadian engine types that many modellers of the steam / transition era in Canada could use, not just record-setters or ‘celebrity’ engines.
Icon actually means worthy of veneration, assuming it isn’t used in its historical religious sense.
Only software nerds adopted it to mean merely representative. The current meaning now unfortunately includes merely a pictograph representing a computer pathname.
Let’s face it, icon was the not best choice of words.
Rich
It would be par for the course to observe you completely missing the semantics of why the team chose that word for the functionality. It’s a play on the Orthodox explanation why their icons aren’t ‘graven images’ as Biblically prohibited, but placeholders for ‘the real thing’ located elsewhere (and likely not callable directly eithout, er, priestly intervention or its equivalent).
Of course in the intervening years much in IxD, including using pictorial avatars for clickable entities or controls, has been trivialized at times. But if you are going to judge it you should do so using the truth, not what you believe.
To bring this DEFINITIVELY back on topic: here is the list of ‘icons of Canadian steam’ taken from lastspikemike’s informational post on the 21st:
Royal Hudson (as issued). Then, scheduled:
“2018”
CP 4-6-0 (three classes);
CN 4-6-0 (two classes)
“2019”
Regular (not ‘royal’) CP Hudson (two classes)
CN 2-8-0 (2 classes
“2020”
CP light Pacific (two classes)
CN light Mountain (one class, U1f)
“2021”
CP heavy Pacific (3 classes)
CN heavy Pacific (3 classes
“2022”
Selkirk (two classes; presumably semistreamlined and ‘regular’?)
CN U4 (two classes - no mention of CN vs. GTW streamlining differences, but I ‘thought’ I remembered U4a was the CN streamlining and U4b the Grand Trunk Western with those snazzy fins)
“2023”
(finally!) the CP Jubilees (2 classes; essentially counts as two different engines)
Some of these are iconic in their own right, and I think we have discussed them. Some of the 4-6-0s are engineered and built lik
I wonder if Jason is sensing this disturbance in the force he created.[(-D]
I’m thinking Rapido sense of humour at play. Marketing requires grabbing attention and generating the buzz.
I fell for it big time with my Royal Hudson purchase when I had no track and no suitable powerpack.
As they say I have not looked back since then. I still simply love looking at the lovely little thing. I now have a Tech 6 connected to a piece of flex track, attached to a rerailer and power connection track. The line even curves majestically at one end, under the keels of my matched pair of RC sailing race yachts, with scratch built rigging no less.
An icon in our house already. Even my dearly beloved grudgingly admires the quality.
I am precisely the same way about the prospect of a real K5a instead of that kludge in the toy-train set, and a U4b, and any Jubilee. I’d never have the excuse to run them, but then again I never wear the Edward Howard…
And yeah, that would apply to a K1a if they made them, and probably to specific road numbers of Betty.
And a high-pressure Selkirk, but that ain’t one I think they’ll make…[(-D]
I suggest the Icon is actually the model itself.
There is a double meaning here…
Surely Rapido couldn’t be poking fun at the almost religious fervour of some discussions about model railroading? Trainsubstantiation, anyone?
Surely Rapido couldn’t possibly be tongue in cheek by suggesting that the stubbornly individualists of Canadian Railroads created Icons when they designed their own persnickety versions of standard wheel arrangements?
Finally, surely Rapido couldn’t possibly be riffing on the fact that Rapido and only Rapido makes a Canadian steam locomotive.
The icon as icon?
I dunno, Mike, but the Japanese and Koreans made a lot of Canadian steam locomotives, too.
Wayne
I have a model of the 6 axle tender for Selkirk road number 8000 (actually designed by a Brit) attached to a Mehano Santa Fe in CPR colours (black, har har) just as it actually was after 8000 wrecked itself. Mind you, it’s a coal tender which is a shame, and it probably would look more accurate behind an American prototype… those Santa Fe’s were never iconic.
Ah, yes, there’s a lovely one at my LHS…listed at a low, low price of $1,200.00!!!
Its amazing how much that CPR paint job can cost us… well, until you try to paint one yourself of course.
Except in your case that is, you can probably whip one off with two Tamiya spray bombs…
I maintain that Rapido simply misused the word.
Instead of icon, they should have chosen a word such as titan.
Rich
How could you? [(-D][(-D][(-D]
What he meant about the Canadian locomotives is ‘at currently cost-effective price tiers’ and with a good selection. I suspect only a Canadian firm, and moreover one with more enthusiasm than concern for opportunity cost, would undertake the combination of scope and quality for price that Rapido has…
Funny how I have no objection to the phrase ‘iconic Canadian steam’ but pick at ‘icons of Canadian steam’. It’s not the same thing semantically but I can’t put my finger on why…
And I am still watching for a Canadian to explain why a 2-8-0 is iconic but a 2-8-2 isn’t [:-^]
And not-too-pricey compared to the latest plastic steam locomotive offerings.
The brass Canadian locomotives are beauties.
-Kevin
Overmod, If you want a K5a, Van Hobbies did a run in 1978 made by Samhongsa. I wanted a K5a too so I bought a brass one that had been nicely painted. It is a beauty and after some work on the drive, it now runs very smoothly. It does have a can motor. I bought mine from Brasstrains and I see they have a one for sale now. Get it painted as the cost to paint such a loco is high. I would like a Jubilee also and Van Hobbies did a run in 1974 but I find they aren’t that well done. I was quoted $300 to paint one. I guess I’ll be in an an assisted living place by the time Rapido bring theirs out. Time isn’t on my side which is why I bought a brass CN J4e Pacific. It is on Rapido’s list but I can’t wait that long.
CN Charlie