When were these made for prototypes made?
The model or the Prototype? The Prototype was made by I think Baldwin or ALCO in the 1900s-1920s era. The model is made by Spectrum.
I was afraid of that. (Was hoping for 1890’s of course.)
Chip,
I really admire your daring. Modeling the 1890s era is no small task, what with the lack of equipment and all. What you should look for on an 1890s steamer is lots of polished brass parts. Prior to 1900, a lot of steamers were very decorative.
Though, if I were you, I’d get that 0-6-0 anyway. It’s an extremely nice model from what I’ve seen.
The Santa Fe had a ‘fireless cooker’ that worked around Chicago, but this 'aint it.
A Saddle tanker with a coal bin.I wonder WHO owned the prototype’s?
My 0-6-0 by P2K Heritage series has the newer Baker valve-gear with the cylindrical piston top. Its era would have been post 1920, in all likelihood. Your tops appear flat, much like pre-1900 Moguls. So I would feel confident that your loco is for a protoypical one made prior to, say, 1900-1910.
Not at all positive, just using my limited observation skills. Any dissenting opinions?
0-6-0 T’s have been made since the 1860’s. Losing the valve gear , putting a smaller wooden cab (moving the front wall of the cab back one window) and removing the door from the cab to make it more open would back date it considerably. A lot of the early 0-6-0’s had a tank on the engine for water and then a small 4 wheel tender with just a coal bunker on it. You could also lose the air compressor and tanks if you wanted, for the 1890’s on a switcher they would be optional.
Dave H.
Hi SpaceMouse, follow the link below and then click on the pages of early steam for some photos of locos from the 1860’s to circa 1910. There were some fasinating locomotive types back then that did not survive into the 20th century, such as the 4-2-4 or the 6-2-0. If you take the link to Industrial engines then choose Saddle tank, you can see prototypes of the 0-6-0 tank engines of the period. Enjoy!
Spacemouse,
This locomotive is virtually in 1890’s condition as is!
It has inside Stephenson valve gear and flat valves above the cylinders (like your 1860s 4-4-0s). The cab does appear to be steel, and wood would be more likely. you might acheive this backdating by carefully painting the cab sides as light brown as varnished wood and painting the cab roof red-brown “Indian Red” to represent red lead paint on the canvas covering the roof.
These locomotives looked much the same for many years, but this is already suitable as an early example. Steel cabs were used on many locomotives in the 19th century.
Peter
US Steel used them as yard switchers in the 1920’s. I have a pic on this page, it is the ninth picture down on the following page:
http://www.westernallegheny.com/warr/warr1.html
Ray out
SpaceMouse: Remember, grasshopper, that you are looking for the colorful, gaily decorated locomotives, not the chunky black ones!
SpaceMouse,
On page 32 of Model Railroader Cyclopedia - Vol 1 is what appears to be the prototype for Spectrum’s 0-6-0T. Built by Alco in 1910 for an Eastern Ohio coal mining operation. Of course, one could use it for just about any industry switching and who knows, Alco could have been building this type of tank loco before the turn of the last century. Unless you are strictly modeling a prototype RR of 1890, I would go ahead and use this little fellow. I have two of them and they seem to run great.
Doug Goulbourn
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