Who Owns the Track?

If you want to have power from more than one Class One, e plain it away as run-through power or repayment for hours-owed.

How do you figure that to be the absolute unequivocal case?

Not absolute as maybe such a situation existed at some time but highly unlikely. In your time period, can you cite a real life example of a factory large enough to generate traffic (you decide how many carloads) in an isolated location with no roads? If not, it’s a fantasy.

Remember, this is a hypothetical scenario, based on various elements of other scenarios.
You call it a fantasy, I call it a hypothetical scenario. If you follow Physics you must have heard
of “Legitimate” parallel universes where reality is similar to our reality, but has slightly different
possibilities. Parallel universes are not Fantasy. It is scientific probability based on real mathematics and legitimate scientific investigation by legit and respected scientists.

The locals have minimal roads and cars, (or maybe pickup trucks), but they are isolated from large highways in the outside world, unless they drive on a gravel or dirt road for say 40 or 50 miles.
I’m basing this on a remote town I read about. (Nevada or Az.)
My town (or towns) get their gasoline (no environmental hysteria here) at the local gas station which gets its supply from a tank car brought in by the Class one and moved to the gas station by a Shortline switcher, rather than from a tanker truck like we normally see at typical gas stations.
Besides the significant Logging and lumber mill, there is a mine (coal, mineral etc.) so there is plenty of employment available. Some other type of factory might exist up there in the remote
Mt. boondocks…not sure what…cement, plastic, toxic chemicals, something the cities and suburbs want to be kept far away. Don’t LOCK the discussion into ONLY THOSE and begin delegitimizing them.
It could be some other industry.not yet named.

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If you want to have power from more than one Class One, e plain it away as run-through power or repayment for hours-owed.

Thanks. Anything to justify them passing through and occasionally using the interchange.

Hypothetical with zero evidence. Thus most would say speculative.
In any case that really has nothing to do with a railroad in North America. Go on and try building something real. Otherwise it’s just an armchair fantasy.

It could be cement if the limestone was mined there. A plastic industry would need plasticizers hauled in and product hauled out and would want paved roads and trained workforce. Chemical plant or any typical factory would need much the same. One candidate your situation reminded me of, is the former SP branch to the Hawthorn (Nevada) ammunition depot. Its about 100 miles of the original Carson & Colorado. It may have been shortlined. There is also a US highway.

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Hypothetical with zero evidence. Thus most would say speculative.
In any case that really has nothing to do with a railroad in North America. Go on and try building something real. Otherwise it’s just an armchair fantasy.

It’s only an armchair fantasy at the planning stage. It becomes a constructed fantasy when the track plan is finished and the physical construction of th benchwork begins.

Model Railroading is all fantasy in any case due to the equipment being used, lack of real diesel engines decoupling of cars, scenery materials, empty and non-productive industries or segmented and modular presentation within the walls of someone’s house or building, not to mention wooden framework underneath foam or some sort of plaster molding. The fantasy list goes on and on with model railroading and operators.

At best it is escapism for the 3D artist, researcher or engineering enthusiast.

It is just a matter of choosing your fantasy and pretending you are running a railroad but really are playing with a scaled down fake representation of a real world enterprise.that makes money when you are not, but instead are playing with unrealistic representations of a real railroad, run by little electric motors, and some with prerecorded sounds thru a small speaker, instead of sounds from the physical attributes of real trains, for your own small scale enjoyment.

So you have a choice of which aspect of scaled down railroad fantasy you want to create and operate. There is no real financial profit involved so that is a moot point reserved for imagination.

That being said, It certainly is a lot of fun and provides a lot of fantasy RR enjoyment.

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I wonder what was the economic justification for the Gorre & Daphetid? Looks like a lot of very expensive construction. :slightly_smiling_face:

It’s your layout and your right to make it what you want. If ultimate realism is a goal, then keeping in mind the economic justification would be important.

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There are or have been several fantasy threads on the MR forum. That seems a much more appropriate place for your musings.

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Gorre & Daphetid?

Funny you brought that up. I was thinking about John Allens layout when I was typing.

It applies every place on the MR forum, since all of MR is a fantasy in one way or another.

But this isn’t the MR forum.

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MR includes prototypical modeling and freelance and fantasy. It appears you don’t seem to understand.

Under the old forum format, this conversation would have fit nicely in the Prototype Information for Modelers in the MR forum. The subtopics are one of the things I miss from the old format, though there are a lot of things about the new forum that are improvement over the old forum.

All of what you just described as MR is fantasy in one way or another, or in various degrees , regardless of how you try to justify it or or apply separate artificial categories of miniature modeling presentation. It’s all fantasy.

You are correct. and Erik_Mag said it best.

Under the old forum format, this conversation would have fit nicely in the Prototype Information for Modelers in the MR forum.

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Perhaps that attitude explains why you are not on the MR forum?

It still exists.

Big Boy:Why don’t you try posting your Model Rail design questions there?

It is still there. Just takes a few whiffs of effort to get there.

Regards, Ed

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