Baltimore Streetcars

Three Baltimore streetcar pictures, one iconic Brill semi-convertable, with the yellow paint denoting it’s one-man front-entrance, and two pictures on the Mt. Washington line, which used both 1931 Brill Peter Witts and PCCs.

Pictures taken Spring 1947, age 15. John Stern and Bill (Giggles) Watson were the older railfans who had me tag along. We did go by PRR both ways, not driving.

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In the photo of 6032 you can really appreciate Baltimore’s wide gauge tracks (5’ 4 1/2"), the gauge left over from Baltimore’s relatively short-lived cable cars.

Your new trolley posts were quite timely for me David, I’ve just finished reading Frank Rowsome’s book “Trolley Car Treasury” from 1956! Fun book!

You’re streetcar posts are always fascinating!

As a kid my family lived in the Catonsville area of Baltimore County. Every day to go to school I walked down Ingleside Avenue and crossed Frederick Road, upon which the No. 8 streetcar line operated between a loop at Rolling Road in Catonsville to Towson. Recall many times waiting for the traffic light to change and watching the yellow and cream BTC street cars to pass.

Frequently my mother would take me to downtown Baltimore to go shopping at the major department stores, Hutzlers, Hoschild-Kohn and Stewarts. We would have lunch in Hutzlers coffee shop that was in the basement of their building on Howard street and feel the rumbling of B&O train passing through the Howard Street Tunnel. Returning home we would normally take the No. 23 bus line that operated from a location on North Rolling Road in Catonsville to Middle River - the bus stop was closer to our house and we would be loaded down with our purchases. We moved from Baltimore in March of 1959 - when I was moved back to Baltimore in 1972 all the street cars were gone.

Great memories! We all experienced something along those lines.

Civilization is dead now however.

I was invited by my cousin that lived in Towson to attend a Orioles double header against the Red Sox in 1956 with her fiancee. The ‘problem’ was I had to go from Catonsville to Towson - the answer the No. 8 streetcar. As I recall, this was a near two hour journey on a Sunday morning with all the stops going into downtown, the traffic downtown and all the stops from downtown to Towson. (The Baltimore Beltway didn’t open until late 1958 that would have made such a O-D trip possible in about 30 minutes.) Baltimore weather being what it is - the games got cancelled by rain and my cousin and her fiancee drove me home so I would not have to use the No. 8 in the reverse direction. I was 9 approaching 10 at the time.

Sorry about the lack of captions on the last photo postoing. Keuboard problems. The PCC and Peter Witt pictures are all on the Mt. Washington Line. The Brill Semi-Convertable is on either the Union Ave. (or Street) or the Key Avenue shuttle, both lines one-car, one-track short shuttles connecting to the Mt. Washington Line. All Baltimore photos, Spring 1947.

Richard Allman reports that it is the Union Avenue Shuttle. The area has been “gentrified.” And the Mt. Washington Line Bridge crossed the PRR’s Baltimore Northern RR, which is now the northern (and first) light rail line, with the line’s Mt. Washington Station.

Here is the material directly from Richard:

David- interesting to see 5765 in one- man paint scheme. Union Avenue is correct. The west end of it in the Jones Valley near where the current Westbury station of the Central Light Rail Line.
And the Mt. Washington Bridge with the PCC on it- in the lower left, you can see the Northern Central RR. It is the current r-o-w for the Light Rail and very near the current Mt. Washington station. Union Avenue is now gentrified.
The one Witt car is shown on Falls Road coming toward the photographer.
Unfortunately none of the two-man semis were preserved, although in the back of their shop is a nearly identical ex-Norfolk car in very bad condition.
I have two 3-D printed shells of the one-man semis that I will begin working on when I complete my Kansas City air-electric PCC. Narrative about that will be forthcoming in next 1-2 weeks.
One of them I will do in the one-man yellow and cream typical of the one-man cars, the other in the drab NCL scheme,
Attaching photos of what Bob Dietrich and I hope will be the finished product from the 3-D printed shells that are produced by Joe Spinella and Greg King in Australia. Greg is a retired tram operati

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Frm Richard Allman:

Oops-that very high bridge was not crossing the Northern Central - it was crossing the Ma. And Pa!! Kelly Avenue bridge crossed and still crosses the old Northern Central - sorry for misinformation!!

More:

At the end of the Union Avenue line:

David … none of the pictures last 3 posts came through.

I’ll email them to you as attachments and ask you to post them again!

Very good. Be glad to assist.

Reminds me, next train show I go to I’ve got to keep my eyes open for an MTH Public Service PCC. There’s one out there somewhere…

Balt, talk about coincidences! I have a brother-in-law that lives in Catonsville! Small world! Last time there we made an antiques raid down the road to Ellicott City. Saw the old B&O station museum too! Neat place!

I have lived in a number of locations around Baltimore. When I was born my parents lived in Linthicum Heights. Subsequently Dad was transferred to Newark, OH, Garrett, IN, Pittsburgh, PA and then back to Baltimore and we lived in Catonsville. Transferred back to Garrett, IN then Akron, OH and Washington, IN. I hired out in Washington, IN in 1965 and subsequently transferred to Pittsburgh and then Akron so I could attend Kent State and work. Upon graduation I go transferred to Baltimore - lived for several months in an apartment in the Moravia section of Baltimore City then my wife and I bought a house in Reisterstown, subsequently selling it to purchase a house in the Lakeshore area of Pasadena. Went through the agony of a divorce - she got the house, I got my pension and stock that I owned. While going through the divorce I roomed with a guy in the Cape St.Claire area of Annapolis - once the divorce was final I cashed in my stock to make the down payment on my house in Sykesville, this time next year the mortgage will have been paid in full. Six months after I bought the house, I got forced to Jacksonville. When I looked at selling the house - the bottom had dropped out of the housing market and I would be taking a loss I could not afford if I sold. In keeping the house, it permitted me to be Dad when I returned for vacations - not som yaahoo living out of a motel room. The relationships I ha