House Committee Hearing on Gunn's Firing

I give up. It might be on C-Span tonight. Now the time has changed to 4:27 am. Keep checking the schedule if you want to catch it.
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp

Why does this time change not surprise me at all[;)]

Probably the democrats were all out getting stoned last time and forgot to vote.[:D]

Seriously, you know nothing of political science. Remember Norm Coleman, the former mayor, former democrat turned Republican? Ever heard of coattails?

Well, Tommy, let’s try some basic math. If 35% were Republican, you can subtract 35% from 100% and what do you get? That’s right, 65%. So 65% of poll respondents were democrat/“independent”. Good for you!! BTW, there’s no need to break it down further, because democrats and so-called independents are pretty much the same. But for the sake of slaking curiosity, the figure I remember was 45% democrat, 20% “independent”.

LOL!!

No, what I am saying is that most democrats these days are completely incapable of forming an independent political thought, which is why most of the Bush-bashers on this forum draw their views straight from the democrat playbook. Otherwise, there’d be enough of a segment of democrats who would admit that they have no evidence that Bush “manipulated data” to get us into war, and therefore, it is idiotic to suggest such a thing.

Who taught you to write? That statement is so non-sensical and unstructured. So you’re saying that the “blame” was

…Now it looks like it is scheduled {that is, Amtrak Governance}, for 2:30 am Wednesday…No wonder we can’t find it it keeps changing…That is on C-SPAN 2.

Futuremodal I am a registared Republican but I am also considered a Moderate. I for one can not stand the fact that the Religous Right wing of the GOP elected a convicted felon that is right BUSH is a Felon. I also am disabled and when he propsed changing my SS benefits that was the last Straw. I also have 1 brother in the milatary and 3 close friends on active duty in the MARINES. 2 of my friends were in the invasion of Iraq in 03 and one of them almost did not make it back. I know what it means to live on a low income that is fixed. My gas bill for this winter is up 35% which takes about another 40 bucks a month out of my pocket. My meds cost 400 a month rent is 250 gas bill is 120 other utilaties are 300 now tell me how am I supposed to live on 1200 a month.

Haliburtion last year was charging us in Iraq 350 a gallon for diesel fuel and they bought it for 75 cents a gallon in Kuwaitt they would abandon a truck that cost 80-90 grand if it got a FLAT TIRE and billus that it was destroyed in an attack so we wouldbuy them a new one. The waste that I have seen in this goverment is outragous. Remember sooner or later we are going to hit a brick wall and our economy will callapse and I do not want to see it. The inheratince tax alone will cost our goverment over a TRILLION bucks in the next 10 years and that is coming form the GAO. We need to stop spending record deficits and get back to what we had 6 years ago the debt that this country is going to destroy us. That is why I can not support Bush anymore. When they fire a CEO that was getting Amtracks house in good order repairing equipment and the NEC trackage and infastructure because he wa doing to good of a job something is wrong.

So you’re basically saying you have no clue what you’re talking about. Not surprised.

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Well, Tommy, let’s try some basic math. If 35% were Republican, you can subtract 35% from 100% and what do you get? That’s right, 65%. So 65% of poll respondents were democrat/“independent”. Good for you!! BTW, there’s no need to break it down further, because democrats and so-called independents are pretty much the same. But for the sake of slaking curiosity, the figure I remember was 45% democrat, 20% “independent”.

And STILL avoiding the question so you have to guess at the answer. Yes, I’m glad you can do basic math, but the 65% WASN"T the question. Now read this S-L-O-W-L-Y so maybe you’ll understand. In your narrow mind, there’s the people who agree with you (Republicans in this case) and everybody else. People capable of wider thought patterns would be interested in how the Democrat and Independant part breaks down.

So the 40% and 20% come under the heading of “43% of statistics are made up on the spot.” Proven by your own statement “the figure I remember” which followed “Democrats and so called Independents are pretty much the same.”

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QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal

Well YOU were the one that lumped them together (Democrats and Independents) so the statement was yours. You specifically separated Independant from Republicans. Most of them in Congress were rubber stamps for the President until recently. Would hardly call that “independant thought.”

Talk about a lame attempt to change the subject. How did the fact that Bush is accused of manipulating intellegence prior to the Iraqui war come into this? Further proof you have no clue what you’re talking about.They started an INVESTIGATION into the allegations, but, as the supporters of the Patriot Act always say, “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.” Sort of like the investigation to see if Monica was under Clinton’s desk.

Sounds like you need to invest a few bucks into a dictionary. Once again I’ll try to say this S-L-O-W-L-Y. The statement came from the elected officials, that lost and were supported by Bush, to the media. If the media chose not to “report” it, (probably where the name Reporter comes from) you wouldn’t hear it on the evening news. Sorry, can’t dumb it down much more than that for you.

When have they NOT been a sounding board for the Democrats? How about the last five years when the White House Press Corps has been selected and have to have their questions approved by the White House or they can’t ask them. A point made more important by how well Bush did in the debates with Kerry.

BUSH is a Felon
Let me guess, you have phony documents to prove it too.

Your favorite rock is back.
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=49853

Another of the statistics that are made up on the spot? And where did this “80% of the media members are admitted Democrats” come from? So if you can’t prove something you make up some “impressive sounding” numbers. Seems like you have a narrow minded view of the media mix. “3 or 4 liberals to one conservative,” LMAO Your claims are so far out in left field they’re laughable.

While media reports are quite sketchy, it appears that the hearing ran almost four and a half hours and is said to have been quite contentious.

I would be interested in the reaction our forum neo-cons would have to the fact that the hearing was called by Steven LaTourette, REPUBLICAN Congressman from Ohio. No doubt, with a name like that he is actually a French mole that has inviltrated the Republican Party in an effort to destroy the President.

The media reports that I have read indicates that the only committee member showing any support for the Amtrak Board action is Rep. Micah from Florida, who, I am sure is the only “true” Republican in the bunch. It should be noted that he has said that Amtrak should get of all the long distance trains except the Auto Train.

However, thanks to futuremodal we all now know that we can’t trust the media with its 80% liberal left commie democats in charge and it is very likely that actually everybody stood up a booed when Gunn presented his testomony. Well, at least the Republicans, because we know that the Democrats on the committee and that appeared are all a bunch of Bush haters.

Tom,

Calling someone a liar is serious bussiness. You better get some proof of it quick, or are you just blowing smoke 45% of the time.

Just asking where these “numbers and statistics” are coming from

By the way, Gunn testified today that he knew something was up when he saw representatives of an outside public relations firm setting up offices in Amtrak’s PR Department Offices. Laney said they were brought in to handle publicity on Gunn’s dismissal but he didn’t remember the name of the firm.

Surely they are volunteers. I can’t imagine that the Board would spend scarce Amtrak dollars on an outside PR firm just to tell people that the Board has fired Gunn.

Tom, St Paul never elected a republican mayor in Norm Coleman. He switched parties, I believe mid term, then went on to the senate, as a hand picked Bush follower, leaving Randy Kelly in charge.

It will be interesting if the senator suddenly grows a spine, and jumps ship from supporting the president. I thought I heard he voted against ANWR drilling. Personally, I’m not a tree hugger, and would like to see the oil tapped, but I also not in favor of trashing the place to do it.

Myu comment is on the posting that says I mislead everyone and I need not comment further. I think my points summarized the issue pretty well, however.

At about 3:30 AM I decided to flip on C-Span, and there it was in all it’s glory on C-Span2, the hearing. As the time of this post it is still going on. Mr Mica (R-FL) is the only one who seems to be in support of the firing. A number of democrats have been trying to pin down responses from Laney and Rosen who are very slippery as both board members are lawyers.

Basicly, Mr Gunn, the only railroad person on the board until his firing, does not agree with a number of plans that the board is trying to advance. The biggest of which is selling off the NEC.

The administration is hell bent on breaking Amtrak up, and Gunn is not willing to do it.

“TV news” is an oxymoron, be it FOX, CNN, the networks or local news. One or two sentences written at the third grade level and a clip with a sound bite or two cannot be called “reporting”.

Forget the media - get it straight right here - no “balance” necessary!
http://www.house.gov/transportation/rail/11-15-05/11-15-05memo.html