Basic math is still the law of mathematics, the law of physics is kicking cars, of course I guess the engineer would have this skill more than a brakeman, know how much throttle to give based on the cars involved.
You use them and just don’t realize or want to recognize it.
Yes but not the ones I am talking about. Unless you are trying to tell me that 2 + 2 doesn’t always equal 4. Or as Cousin Vinny says, Do the laws of physics that apply to the whole grit eating world cease to apply on your stove top?
I truly doubt if the engineer was doing any math since he had no clue if the car being kicked was loaded,empty or a stiff roller…All he was required to do was open the throttle “shove 'em west 6133” came across the radio and shut it when “that will do” 6133" came across the radio.As one of the fieldman I line the switches…The conductor usually pulled the pin and no he wasn’t doing any math either.
Your strawman logic doesn’t hold water since all you are doing is complicating the simplicity of kicking cars.There is no math involved if there was you wouldn’t hear a loud “bang” as the cars coupled-if the kicked car(s) didn’t stop short before making the joint…
I doubt if I do simple math more then twice a week and then I use a calculator for adding and (mostly) subtracting.
LOL
Just stumbled onto this thread and came to this comment.
Irritated?
What did you do or say that would irritate me? I cannot even recall. Tell me more.
Rich
Gidday Brent, I would have thought that by posting, or replying to a thread on forum such as this, there is an implied open invitation for others to comment, so one should be prepared for a possibly adverse comment.
Besides, in my opinion for what its worth, its not laziness that brings forth anti-social behaviour, but ignorance and bad, or lack of manners.
Now I had better lie back on the “couch”. [:D]
Cheers, the Bear.
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if this remark has to do with this forum, it’s IMHO way out of line. I am participating quite some years, apart from a very occasional eruption this forum is amazingly peaceful.
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Here we can witness a huge difference. The Bear is pretty clear, he is giving his opinion, while Batman is hiding behind a doctor. I asked my shrink, sic,…he found Batman’s statement completely nonsence.
I should better be on the couch as well. (whose couch??)
Smile
Paul
Rich and Brent have always been more than helpful to me. So has Randy and the Lion. Sorry if I left someone out. I value some comments more than others.
Remember the Hockey thread (oh boy…).
I can only share my experience (limited), strength and hope with others and that is seldom wrong.
Analyze this comment and me if you want but I am pretty sure you would get bored.
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BrianinBuffalo,
I like Your avatar,LOL
Cheer’s,
Frank
A lot of time “negativity” is pointing out legitimate pitfalls. The traffic sign that warns of a sharp curve or steep grade ahead is not insulting my driving ability, its warning me of potential problems so I can take corrective or preventative action or be prepared.
Case in point in the SUX debacle. After repeated posts questioning the reliability of sectional track, SUX challenged anybody to provide information “proving” his methods would be less reliable. Since there were many things that were LESS reliable (which is not the same as UNreliable) it was pretty easy to come up with one. I posted about the issues that could arise from differences in cork roadbed thickness.
In the very next thread SUX did EXACTLY what I had cautioned about. He used sheet cork instead of cork road bed, which is a significantly different thickness, ended up with a different thickness of track and was having to shim the various track sections to get it to come out level, decreasing the reliability of his system even more and increasing the complexity.
In my mind SUX asked for proof the road had curves, I put up a traffic sign warning about a sharp curve immediately ahead, SUX ignored it and just drove completely off the road.
In my mind if somebody is doing something that isn’t coming out well, its better to tell them a better way than to let them continue to do things poorly. At some point they are going to figure what they did wasn’t that good and all have to question judgement of all the people who told the person it looked "great’.
If somebody does a weathering job that looks like they dipped a car in a bucket of mud, and I tell that person it, “Looks great, good job!”, when they improve and I tell them that the improved attempt “Looks great, good job!”, can they trust my judgement? Is my opinion or feed back worth anything to them? How do they know they have improved
True, but it is also how you say it.
If the traffic sign warning of a sharp curve says,“Hey dork, there is a sharp curve ahead”. it can be highly offensive in spite of the well meaning warning.
So, even with 40+ years of experience, it is all in how you present it to the novice.
Rich
Trick question…
You,I or any of us can tell a newbie that or this won’t work but,it boils down to that old horse and water thing.
What Sux was doing was nothing new under the sun and would have work if he used regular cork roadbed…He would not listen and his method turn into one big fail.
On the other hand telling a newbie sectional back won’t work isn’t exactly true because my experience using it on a 4x4’ layout(I keep forgetting that stupid and boring layout) that I used for about 3 months proves other wise.All of my 6 foot ISLs used sectional track.
Using Atlas snap switches as crossovers will work but,I will never recommend using them.
A lot of the simple hobby basics still work in this simple hobby.
Compared to face-to-face conversations, an internet forum is horrible. It opens up many ideas to many people; but writing skills, time allocation, or just not caring about the consequences of a statement (like you might get punched in the mouth if you said that in person), all contribute to the problem. Both the repliers and the OP bear greater responsibility to stay focused on the goal of the thread when it gets sidetracked by emotional outbursts.
BTW, I think Sux had about 2 stars worth of posts. I don’t recall his posts ever standing out like the last few did. The one that alerted me to his (or her) attitude was the “How do I free a trapped locomotive” thread. That one got ugly fast because Sux was unwilling to incorporate the simple solutions needed to fix the problem, and basically claimed we were trying to oppress him when we suggested either adding some track or change his operating plan so the locomotive didn’t get trapped in the first place.
Like I said, the other 2 stars worth of posts never stood out to me.
Makes me wonder if he just didn’t go through some personal crisis recently and was mad at the world. Each of his threads were pretty simple, really, and were i
I’ve seen forum members on this and other forums that had thin skin and took everything personal instead of a different point of view and forum replies amounts to exactly that…
The problem I see with this hobby there is several ways to do the same thing and each way amounts to a point of view through hands on experience…
If the traffic sign warning of a sharp curve says,“Hey dork, there is a sharp curve ahead”. it can be highly offensive in spite of the well meaning warning.
Depends on the person. A lot of people would fail to make the curve because they’re laughing so hard.
Andre
Bear.
For most of us it was our parents that taught us how to behave. How we were brought up determines how well we can fit in to society in an acceptable manner. Just like anything else learned, this takes effort. Effort by the parents to make sure they not only teach us how to behave, but also take the time to explain why we should behave that way.
I am no different than anyone else. I often find myself biting my tongue when I am about to blurt out something I shouldn’t. I then put the effort into choosing my words or actions more carefully.
You are quite right when you say it is ignorance is the reason for bad manners and anti social behaviour. However as with anything, it is never to late to learn or succeed at anything, it just requires putting in the effort. Unfortunately too many of us try to put the car in gear without first pushing in the clutch.
It’s undeniable that ignorance, lack of training, and upbringing does play a part in our behavior as an adult. However, well-mannered folks can still come out bad upbringings, and poor manners and rudeness out of the best of situations. It has more to do with what goes on in a person’s own heart than his or her own environment. That’s why folks are so quick to blame everyone else for their actions and claim they were the victim.
Tom
Maybe its keyboard bravado?
As someone alluded to it earlier, Larry, it’s much easier to be brash and reckless behind a keyboard than to say the same thing to another person’s face. Two of the reasons I include my name at the bottom of each post is to:
And, yes - there have been a few instances where I wish I had an “anonymous” account. [(-D]
Tom
if this remark has to do with this forum, it’s IMHO way out of line. I am participating quite some years, apart from a very occasional eruption this forum is amazingly peaceful.
I have no skin in this game, but your exchange, you two, reminds me of an old ad in magazines dealing with a brand of cigarettes going back to the 60’s. It showed the contented user smoking his prefered brand, but sporting a black eye. The caption went, “He’d rather fight than switch.”
In that sense, I think I understand what Brent means. I think he means that the vitriol and posturing from many people posting on forums and news groups (yahoo home page news item discussion are a laugh a minute) is an expression of inconvenience, intolerance or resistance to change, and a general sloth mentally…or being mentally lazy and not wanting to adopt the views that the other person is offering, even when it appears, if he were honest, to be correct or to have a better mouse trap.
Crandell
I agree!!!
It was sad to see Lindy Ruff get fired.
What are we talking about???
Ooops wrong forum.
Better go now.
Bye![+o(]