Larry
As a brakeman, you never used math? You never counted cars, divided added, multiplied?
Physics you say? I bet you knew how far a car would drift with a shove of the loco based on your past experiences of that empty vs loaded boxcar, on the incline/grade/ on certain sidings?
I bet you also used geometry, more than your cared to admit or realized.
[:D]
No matter anyways, I heard that Elvis has left the building, to the tune of Frank Sinatra’s “My Way” playing in the background.
Isn`t that when you stick an electric motor on a bass boat to go fishing? [:o)]
Basic math like counting cars is child play.90% of the time there was no need since you know your cut will be between C&O 456320 and ATSF 765652…See how easy? You pulled the cars and stop to make the cut…Of course that was back in the day…
As far as kicking cars…No math needed at all…Shove 'em west for the kick 6133,that will do 6133! pull the pin and watch the car roll…Next car is ready for the kick…Take 'em east 6133 that will do…6133 Shove 'em west for the kick,that’ll do 6133.If the car stop before the joint the next car will shove to the joint if not,we’ll push the cars to the joint.
Doing it your way and you might switch 90 cars in 12 hours.
Doing it the way I was taught a heads up crew could flat sw
I guess I better take my trolling motor off my 14’ jon boat…[(-D]
Good lord, I’ll second that. A few months back I asked a blazingly stupid question, got a well-reasoned and interesting response, and offered a viewpoint that was, without really meaning to be, powerfully offensive to the person trying to help me. He got mad (rightly, I see now in retrospect). Response received, evaluated, idiocy and blame fully mine, point taken, will endeavour to not repeat the mistake. RichHOtrain, If you’re still irritated with me, I am sorry.
Exactamundo.
We have occaisionally disagreed on rules questions, but it was a case of two different rule books, so both of us were “right”. It just depends on which rule book and operations was the basis. of the answer. If we have disagreed it not that I dispute anything you say, its just that my experience is different because I have worked in areas with different rules and different infrastucture. I respect the experience of professional railroaders and know that they may have an experience that is different from mine.
That’s why I always say the location and era are critical to giving the “correct” answer.
hi gentlemen,
though earlier today i saw one of SUX’s threads locked, they are all vanished by now.
Is some-one able to delete his (or her) own threads or is it done by an administrator?
BTW Byron Henderson’s remarks about applauding machines came into my mind, as well as an other one:
"Don’t ask me what I think about you
I might give an answer you don’t want me to"
from a song by Fleetwood Mac
Smile
Paul
Not all the threads started by SUX are gone. Looks like just his How To’s and the rant when he quit.
Threads are locked and removed by admintrators.
His using 3M Command Strips for temporary track placement appears to be a good idea, but the How To was too complicated.
Awhile back another member got mad and quit. He edited all his posts to remove the content.
One thread I started was removed. They sent me a notice and explantaton. I think the administrator was overzealous and disagreed with the reason, but accepted it and went on. Still enjoy this Forum.
A user can only delete his posts if there are no replies. What SUX did was edit his posts to remove content and replaced it with a dash or period.
The moderators deleted the actual threads.
Well, apparently you also missed the the simple point I was making, so I’ll try again.
Some questions people ask have real and correct answers which are not subject to judgement. Once someone has answered that question, there is no further need of other people to “continue” to answer it.
This thread should be renamed FORUMERS’ Psychology.
This may be true. However there is a tendency for people on this forum to say what they think without an invitation to do so.
Ask any Psychologist why so many people spew forth with hate, vile and negativity, and the good Doctor will tell you that people are generally lazy by nature. It take’s more effort to respond in a kind, respectful manner and even more to turn the other cheek.
While SUX seemed less than receptive to most responses to his thread’s. His thread’s would have died a quick death if like an earlier responder had quoted “we just let go of the rope”.
I think their is room for everyone here on the forum. A bad idea or not, with more experience he may have come up with a real winner down the road. However if someone finds he is not being included, he may need to look inward and change his behaviour or find a new sandbox to play in.
Yeah, but there are fewer of those than many people think.
Enjoy
Paul
Some questions may have other answers then those posted that may be a easier way to do things…
I would rather have an enthusiastic bunch of answers to a question than a paucity of information- or worse, none at all. I feel gratified when Jim Bernier, Doc Wayne, Darth Santa Fe and others actually take the time to reply to my questions. They have greater knowledge than I do and it is fortunate that I have access to their perspective- one of the great things about our Information Age! Sure, sometimes there is a light years lag between query and reply, as in: “I’m amused that people will reply to a thread that originated in 2008, and the last post was in 2010.” But that only reflects that there are many others who want answers who come late to the conversation. And we should be thankful, given the constant patter about the shrinking demographics of our hobby, that there are many others coming online to participate- let’s keep the door open as wide as possible! One final thought- it would be a fantastic thing if we could better index the helpful information that passes through this forum, which might make the modelers research more efficient. Not that I have the ability or time for it, but … Cedarwoodron
I agree that turning the other cheek is the best way to avoid conflict.
But these are not private conversations where someone can just walk away with no consequences.
This is a public forum with world-wide viewing and any viewer can get bad information, or a bad tutorial, that may lead them to think some cobbled together cork and track pieces will replace Atlas Tru-track.
Imagine someone considering the hobby and embarks on his method. Spends the money and gawd-awful time hacking away a perfectly good slab of cork, gluing up perfectly good track, and winds up walking away from the hobby disappointed, all the while blaming a tutorial that he found on a serious publishers website (or wondering if you need to wear a hat to play with trains)
Perhaps it a bit arrogant of us, but some of us were trying to do the viewers a favor by pinning him down to what he was trying to accomplish and to checkmate his evasive and insincere answers.
If I get 10 responses that laying track with caulk is the best way to do it even though it has already been stated 9 times I can feel more confident in going that route rather than reading one response with no other affirmations. Likewise, if I happen to accept one post that says laying track with CA is the best way to do it with no comments to the contrary I will end up with a big mess. Over time I have begun to develp a feel for what information is legitimate on the forum and what information is better forgotten about.
If one really wants a more certified “right way” to do something they would do well to purchase one of the books that cover that part of the hobby. Being cheap I don’t want to purchase every book available at $20 a clip, though I have purchased a few. The more critical the process the more I take time and research to make sure I am getting good and reliable information.
But what if the majority of the responses are from people that have never actually used caulk. I notice that there are a number of posters here that just agree for no other reason then to just add their comment. Some posters don’t even have a layout but if you read their posts they know everything there is about building one.
My policy, in replying to others’ threads, is to offer my method or knowledge of something, that I have actually done or do as a practice, or know something about. If I come across an interesting item that may be of use in the hobby, I will offer my experience with it and where I got it as a possible aid to others. No one pays us for our opinions here, rather it is the concept of sharing that should be the principal motivatation for joining a conversation on a topic. Otherwise, all we might end up with is frustration, not education. ( yeah, I know that sounds corny, but…) Cedarwoodron
I currently don’t have a layout but,you can bet the farm I know how to build one since I’ve built several over the years.I understand the basics of using caulk only because I seen it used.I’ve used white glue to hold the track in place on Woodland Scenics foam roadbed on my last layout and plan on using it on the next.
However…
I wonder if one never built or even help build a layout how do they get their experience?
From books? Magazines?
I suspect they do a lot of studying and can answer basic questions or design a layout.
But,having no hands on experience with caulk,glue etc then perhaps they shouldn’t answer a topic covering such things?