Basically I’m looking for as much information on the NYC L-1 Mohawks as I possibly can get. Basically the areas that they were assigned to run, relocations, modifications over the years, stuff like that. If there are any books with good L-1 info, feel free to recommend any to me.
Also I’m looking for as many pictures of L-1s as I can possibly see. Thanks guys!
You may do well to go to the NYCHS https://nycshs.org/, scroll way down to find where you can order the book “Know Thy Mohawks”. Good Luck!
PS - Be advised that the book is not out yet.
Absolutely perfect. Just the sort of thing I was looking for. Gonna try and get this as soon as I possibly can. Thank you.
You might like this picture, posted on an earlier thread.
I got curious about that link Big Jim posted, so I took a look for myself.
Great site, and a great intro video too!
Too bad about the New York Central, that merger with the PRR was very ill-advised. What a shame. What a waste.
Just pre-ordered the book. Now I have something to really look foward to.
He certainly might like it; I certainly like it, but …
the thread is about L-1 Mohawks, and that is not only an L-3, but the very last example of an L-3. Any numbers higher, in the 3100 series, would be L-4s.
Those are very, very different locomotives from L-1s.
Hey, if the man likes Mohawks, and who doesn’t, I’m sure he’ll enjoy the picture anyway.
I was going to make a crack about “A Mohawk drumming along the Mohawk” but I believe that’s the Hudson River, and the old West Shore Line. [:-^
And as long as I’m thinkin’ about it…
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Hudson, yes, but in my opinion it’s more likely this is southbound just exiting a station on the Hudson River main. See the NYC freight-and-passenger signal to the left of the visible track, in the distance? I’m embarrassed not to know where this might be.
One of my favorite stories is “The Mohawk That Refused To Abdicate and Other Tales” by David P. Morgan and Philip R. Hastings. I first read it in a book of the same name, long since out of print, but, it appeared again in full a few years ago in the special series of “Classic Trains” magazines “In Search of Steam Volume II: 1954-1955”.
A good read if you can find it!
Absolutely!
“The Mohawk That Refused To Abdicate And Other Stories” is an absolute masterpiece! Well worth haunting train shows and used book dealers to find a copy!
If you do find it, don’t be put off by the rather garish 70’s era dust jacket, there’s gold in those pages!
Overmod, Flintlock is correct. This was the West Shore, and I was riding the rear southbound from Kingston, after the Ulster and Delaware from Fleischmans, and the Mowhawk is northbound, with the Hudson River on the right and Bear Mountain on the other side in the background. 71+ years ago.
It was posted about two years ago on my Ulster and Delaware - West Shore thread, recently reactivated by a recent picture of Fleischmans, with the tracks still existing/
Thanks David! I thought I recognized that photo from the Ulster & Delaware thread!
That was an interesting thread. Up until then I didn’t know there was a town in New York called Fleischmans. I thought Fleischmans was just a brand of cheap whiskey. [;)]
I had my mountains sadly confused – for some reason I was thinking that visible peak on the ‘other side’ was Storm King, which was not fun to encounter on 9W, painfully and slowly, over a few times in my youth.
Shows how innocent I am, I suppose – I never realized that All We Railfans have been misspelling the town all these years. (I think I got into the scam by reading Staufer – Did NYC get the sign wrong and just keep using it?) And that it’s margarine, and yeast, and bakeries, and very nice HO scale FAs … but only just now, I see, whiskey.
Ah, well. I didn’t play too good a game of billiards either.
Storm King is on the West Shore side if I remember correctly, and Bear Mountain near Beacon on the East side. But there is also a Mount Beacon directly adjacent to that town of that name. Does the incline on it still operate?
Yes, Storm King on west side. Mount Beacon was largely ‘supported’ in its last years by the Day Line tourists (off the Alexander Hamilton) and was closed in '78. I believe Hudson River Heritage helped get it on the National Register in the early '80s but it was severely vandalized only a short time afterward. Not sure there’s enough tourist draw, even ™ with the fun Metro North ferry from the other side, to restore it fully as either a historic site or operating incline.
Bear Mountain is on the West side of the Hudson as well. That could very well be it in the background of the photo, I blew up the photo to the max and the railroad makes a very sharp turn to the left, following the shoreline and coming up on Iona Island maybe?
Directly across the Hudson From Bear Mountain is another peak called Anthony’s Nose. Some rugged country up there, I know, I hiked it many years back.
Mount Beacon’s definately on the east side of the Hudson, further north from the Bear Mountain area and directly across from New Windson and Newburg.
I think you are right about the RR (and the River) making a bend, because the shape of the Mountain seems like Bear Mountain to me. Mount Beacon has a flatter and longer top, if I m remember correctly. Appreciate any comment.
I enjoy these conversations David. I think you, me, and Overmod miss the Hudson Highlands in a way that’s hard to put into words. Beautiful country up that way, just as scenic as anything else the US has to offer.