"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!

G’day Gents!

Thanx to our Manager, Lars for helping out this morning! Took a bit of the “strain” off the line for Moi! [tup] Also, a [#welcome] to DD1 - see separate SPECIAL Post . . . . [tup] More specifics to the both of you in tomorrow’s acknowledgments . . . [tup]

For Pete: Email received ‘n responded to - thanx! By the by, I misunderstood your question - NO, I do NOT have a foto of that loco in question . . . don’t recall even walking back that way. Probably looking for YOU!

Continuing on with Pix from Day Four: Sunday - May 27th, 2007 - ExpoRail Canadian Railway Museum at Delson/Saint-Constant, Quebec, Canada

From the balcony - Inside Building #1 (cont’d)

Can you?

The balcony

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Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH.[tup]

DAVE Yes it does sound as though if those locomotives were at that mill they no longer exist today[:(]. It is strange that no works plates have turned up, I wonder what price those chime whistles fetch if they change hands[wow][?]. Some of the nameplates off the steam locos in Britain, when they are auctioned today, cost more than what it cost to build the locomotive when it was built in the 1920s or 30s.[%-)]

Are there any Cab-forwards in museums today beside # 4294 shown in Dave’s link.[?]

I don’t blame you feeling like that about that mayor.[yeah]

MIKE Thanks for the links[tup]. It must have sounded great to be in the first car with a cab-forward working a passenger service[wow].

The cars in the Federal Express look to be made of very strong construction.

Good photos of the prototypes and the youngsters are certainly enjoying the model versions.[yeah]

LARS Thanks for inviting DD1 to call in at the bar[^] I am looking forward to some navy tales between DD1, TOM and yourself.[yeah]

Great set of Great Northern book and DVD covers[^][tup]. The electric and steam in color looks a great book.

DD1 I do hope you will join us at Our Place,[tup] Tom gets the Guinness from Dublin.[yeah]

Another person who saw steam in regular use on the main line.[^] I am from England but in the US now, although now in my mid 50s, I remember steam in everyday use as steam lasted a lot longer there on the main line(1968). In fact la

Hi Tom and all,

HAPPY 27th TO ALL!

Leon set em up up all round, mines a Tui.[bday]

Tom. Your Milwaukee Road coverage was 1st class, nostalgia is great food for the mind![tup][tup]

Dave. You were correct about the NZ locos being used as "rip rap" , a huge number of engines were dumped in river stopbanks to help in flood protection, most of the Rogers 2-4-2s were found in the Oreti river stopbanks near Invercargill, NZs southernmost city.

Eric. NZ railways used to operate long distance bus services as well, AKA “NZ Railways Road Services”, they used to build their own bus bodies so this came in handy when they built the railcars. NZ railways was very protected up until the 1980`s, their was a 40 mile radius trucking restriction on freight delivery by road, so any mileage over that had to go via rail

Pete. Rail in NZ was first started by each Provincial Council and was a real “Hotch Potch” of different gauges and equipment, their was even a “wooden rail” line from Invercargill to Makarewa at one stage. All this was standerdised by Julius Vogel the NZ Government Engineer of the day, he stipulated 3ft 6in gauge as the NZ standard. A lot of NZ locos were supplied by Badwin, Rogers etc. because it was easier and cheaper to ship them over the Pacific from the West coast of the USA. The Otago Provincial Council were very much Double Fairlie minded because they did`nt need turntables to turn them around, a big cost saving as this province was settled by the canny Scots! The Wellington/Manawatu railway was virtually a

Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, old friend, just a cup of coffee! I have to leave in a few minutes!

Just stopped by to wish a Happy 27th Anniversary**!!!**

At the same time I want to say [#welcome] to DD1!!

I am following my doctor’s advice to get some extra sleep (due to some symptoms) so I am afraid I won’t be back until Saturday with an inclusive post. It will be nice when I can go back to normal routines again.

I think I have showed this one before, but where was it taken?

See you soon!

Eric

Good morning fellow train connoisseurs… May I join you? Could I have an extra cold Guinness please and top up whatever everybody else is drinking and something for you bartender…

Only the second visit here, so I buy this and the next round…

Good morning gents … and a HAPPY ANNIVERSARY to my favorite bar by the tracks! Congratulations to Captain Tom and all who contribute to keep this great thread rolling. I’ll have a light breakfast please and shake loose some Michigan quarters for Her Wurlitzer for later.

Went to a meeting of the 20th Century Railroad club in Chicago last night. I’ll tell you about our speaker later. An interesting thing happened on the UP Northwest Metra line trip back to Crystal Lake last night that I’ll share now. About the time we approached the Fox River Grove stop, the conductor announced that the police had informed the crew that an individual somewhere between Fox River Grove and Cary, was attempting to commit suicide by using the train. We were directed to pull to the side at Fox River Grove and either wait until this individual was apprehended, or de-train. Fortunately for all, the individual was quickly caught, and our delay was only minutes. I was impressed that the Conductor, more than once referred to this individual as a “poor soul, who needed help.”

On another subject, I’ve put together a “little” story called Fire in Tunnel 9" for later in the day, but for now, here is an interesting poem called the REDBALL FREIGHT by H.L. Kelso

The JUDGE peered sharp at the man on trial,

A hobo, old and gray;

He sized him up from head to toe,

Then bade him have his say,

“Was passing through,” the ‘bo spoke out,

"On yonder streak of rust.

This cinder dick who hauled me here

Knows naught of wanderlust.

"I had a job like yours and his

‘Way back along the trail,

Arresting tramps and thieves and such

And sending them to jail.

And then one night from in the sky

I heard the honking geese.

They seemed to say, "Come follow us

And you will find your peace."

"A long long freight was leaving town;

Her

Good Morning everybody present and

Happy Anniversary! [bday]

Ruth, I am so sorry about the mix-up the other day. [:I] I really need to clean my glasses more often, don’t I? Let me have a Tequila, make it a Reserva de Familia in honor of this day (not that Tijuana stuff Dave was talking about).

I followed Tom’s advice and went back a couple of pages to see what y’all had been up to while I was gone.

I start with Tom, our Captain and the busiest poster of all. It was a really great collection of Canadian pictures. The interior shot from the vintage sleeper reminds me of a privately owned heavyweight that was on display at the Fullerton Railroad Days this year. The owner had built a sleeping compartment for his own use that looked just about the one in your picture. Of course my daughter had to ask why we couldn’t have a room like that on our trip from Chicago! [?]
A very interesting picture of the GG1 it in the waiting room in Washington; somehow I don’t think that was the intention with that room. [#oops]Sturdy construction of the engine, though. I wish we could say the same for the floor.
Thank you for the link to the Flexliner pictures. The first picture I looked at was from Fullerton. Interesting! And I missed all of that when it was there, too bad. [oops] Looking at those pictures it was like seeing the “Kustpilen” all over again. That’s the similar train that runs through my home town in Sweden. Although the first class compartment isn’t as fancy as that in the pictures. But as the accompanying article stated: The manufacturer added all the bells and whistles on this demo train.
Yes, the LAUPT has seen a lot of changes over the year. My wife told me her Dad had to hold her with a firm hand so she did

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Today is the 27th Month Anniversary of “Our” Place!

An adult eating ‘n drinking establishment for the discussion of Classic Trains ‘n stuff!

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“Our” Place interior

Mentor Village Chorale 'n Philharmonic background singers!

Manager Lars’ Bar in the Penthouse Suite

G’day Gents!

So what kind of a day will this be [?] Just another Thursday OR something special [?] Guess time will tell, eh [?]

Coffee’s hot - pastries fresh and our ‘n breakfasts are ready for eatin’ - so let’s get it on! [tup] [swg]

Customer ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):

Lars at 9:05 AM Wednesday - July 11th: Many thanx for picking up the

Jan will do just fine. Not much happening here in Glasgow as far as I know, trainwise anyway. May I raise a toast for many more happy months to come here at our place…

Hello Tom

Been nice and busy in our place the last day or so!

I’ll have a full breakfast - here at the bar - will make a change from last weeks 125 mph breakfast I guess. In fact on Eurostar trains you can dine at 185 mph if you travel First Class - but the food is not proper chef prepared - it is very much the same deal as the Renaissance dining car cooking technology - which as we both agree - does not match the 1st class fare! It is supposed to be acceptable however. TGV trains in France are not equipped with proper dining cars as I understand it (only buffet counter service) - but the ICE in Germany is advertised as having a proper Restaurant Car - I’m not sure if that is with proper chefs or not.

Off topic but I agree about your comment on the size of churches in Quebec - I noticed this as soon as I got out of Montréal on the Quebec Train and saw small communities with massive churches - I think the church was very powerful in Quebec society for many years - and the British government tolerated this ‘alternative power base’ because of the work the church did in welfare provision etc.

Just going back to your comment about that Santa Fe trip you took as a child - so what you are saying is you had a private room, spent plenty of time in the Dome etc, got (demanded?) good service from the crew - well - anyone who has read any of your recent trip reports will know you started as you meant to go on!

Per - I found the analysis of the LA UPT timetables very interesting - it gives some idea of the scale of long distance services and the sheer reduction in number of that form of transit from today. In Europe of course the numbers of long distance services would have increased in many areas (but the system is all government subsidised of course). In many ways the US is lucky to have the Amtrak service that it does.

Eric - Black Pud

Sure am DL. A Swede living in Sotland. My family is like dogfood, spread all over the place, US, Canada and here in the, well, sunny UK…

So, do we have Sunday popquizes? [(-D]

Posted By: barndad in General Discussion (Classic Trains)
Subject: Re: "Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL
Classic Trains in a special environment!


Good morning Captain Tom and all, Too early for a Gunniness, maybe a Scotch. Join me. I’ve included a quote from one of my E-mails that contains nomenclature I don’t understand. I’ve hightlighted the items in BLUE. [%-)]Can you explain what they mean?

Good morning gents … and a HAPPY ANNIVERSARY to my favorite bar by the tracks! I'll have a light breakfast please and shake loose some
Michigan quarters for Her Wurlitzer for later.

Went to a meeting of the 20th Century Railroad club in Chicago last
night. I'll tell you about our speaker later. An interesting thing
happened on the UP Northwest Metra line trip back to Crystal Lake last
night that I'll share now. About the time we approached the Fox
River Grove stop, the conductor announced that the police had informed
the crew that an individual somewhere between Fox River Grove and Cary,
was attempting to commit suicide by using the train. We were directed
to pull to the side at Fox River Grove and either wait until this

I’ve got some woodworking I have to do this morning so I can’t linger for long except to say:thanks for all the good will extended to me. Until later. DD1(Ron)

BTW Tom, I have to comment about coming from NYC via San Francisco(30 years)and ending up in Mississippi. I came here in 1992 because of job demands. I liked what I saw and one month later, the rest of my family joined me. It’s a move I don’t regret. It was cul

[bday] Happy 27th Month ANNIVERSARY to “Our” Place! [bday]

Ahoy Cap’n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, keep the tankards full for those who have taken it upon themselves to celebrate this fine day at Cap’n Tom’s Tavern by the Tracks! 5-[tup] Salute to the guyz who keep this place rollin’!

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A hearty [#welcome] aboard to two guyz - DD1 (Ron) down in Mississippi & Jan over in Scotland! [tup] I’m the Manager of this bar 'n hope that you’ll find the conversations, photos 'n goings on to your liking!

Page one of this thread is very important in order to fully appreciate how Cap’n Tom wants to run this joint. We are NOT a “hit 'n run” establishment and do everything we can to ignore those who practice that kinda thing here. Just a word to the ‘wise’ as Cap’n Tom has a TWEETER which will sound a most painful shrill sound should he find anyone in violation of the “rules”! He’s “big” on recognition of the barkeep upon entering AND ordering a drink, food, etc. So, now you know. [tup]

There’s so much more to this bar of ours, but you’ll figure it out in no time. [#welcome] again, and Ruth, give them a drink on me! [tup] Oh what the heck - Boris - ring that bell twice - and let’s have a round for all! [yeah]

For Ron: Yo

Today is the 27th Month Anniversary of “Our” Place!

An adult eating ‘n drinking establishment for the discussion of Classic Trains ‘n stuff!

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“Our” Place interior

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Mentor Village Chorale 'n Philharmonic background singers!

Manager Lars’ Bar in the Penthouse Suite

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G’day Gents!

A throwback to days gone by . . . busy enough for another round of acknowledgments and it’s only mid-day! [wow]

Looks like Lars did a commendable job in getting guys to turn out for this Anniversary day! [yeah]

Happy 27th Month Anniversary to “Our” Place!

G’day Gents!

Here’s an ENCORE! from way back on Page one of the ORIGINAL THREAD, Posted on 13 April 2005 . . . just as things were getting going for “Our” Place. You may check out this Page 'n site by clicking this link:

http://www.trains.com/TRC/CS/forums/1/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587

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Good Morning!

Things have been rather slow in this new place of ours - well it is new and a bit of time has to pass before it catches on. Appreciate those of you who took the time to drop a word or two … we’ve had quite a few people poke their heads in, look around, and leave … maybe when we draw a crowd, some of them will try again.

QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 12 Apr 2005, 18:33:43
I’m not prepared to knock the new Via Renaissance cars until after I give them a chance. I too still like the Budd cars. At least Via fianlly purchased some new equipment even if it had been stored for awhile.
If this is to be about Classic trains than I shall mention my two favorites from the past the GN Empire Builder and Santa Fe Super Chief. I rode the new 1947 Empire Builders days after their inaugural the first of many trips on this and the subsequent Empire Builders up to and including Amtrak.

Couldn’t agree with you more - one should only voice an opinion when one has knowledge of the subject. Make

Hi Tom and all.

[bday][bday][bday]27th Anniversary to Our Place, so A round for all please RUTH, it is good to see you so busy I will make sure the bar is well stocked and hopefully there should be plenty of takers for H&H’s Fish ‘N’ Chips later.[^][tup]

ALLAN Many thanks for the info on the settling on 3’ 6" for the railway gauge in NZ[tup]. It sounds as though they was a great deal of locomotive variety there[^]. Where were the modern diesels built that are in use today[?]. The main line freight diesel locomotives in the UK are from GM in Canada. The last British built freight locos built new were the class 60s introduced in 1989.

Were any of those locomotives that were dumped in the Oreti river stopbanks able to be salvaged as museum pieces.[?]

ERIC Is the photo at Chicago Union Station.[?] I see the X2000 is getting some admiring looks from the guys on the left.[^]

Make sure you get plenty of rest and take care.[yeah]

JAN Another one from GB.[tup] I am from England and now living in the U.S.

I hope you will join us at Our Place; the beer is always on top form[yeah]. Thanks for the round.[tup]

DOUG That does sound a sympathetic conductor on your train. I’m glad the police was able to stop that guy.[tup]

Looking forward to ‘Fire in Tunnel’[yeah] and enjoyed the great Redball Freight poem.[tup]

PER That is an impressive list of trains that used LAUPT in 1950, thanks for sharing.[tup]<

Happy third[bday][bday][bday] to the gang and the continued Success of "Our place. Hip-Hip horray for our estemed manager Sir Lars and Sir Tom[#welcome] on this most auspecious occasion.

PWolf: Set me up for some fish & chips and course the proper libations.

DL: At last, a second Dave at the bar[(-D], best of all to you and welcome to the bar…

Top of the day Allen to you also, Most interesting post, thanks…

Ps Tom: I’m not ignoring you, I do owe you a message, with over 900 unviewd it is proving most laborious!!! I shall attend to at the earliest oppertunity

Eric…Good to see you about, I see youv’e been tasked with restraining Boris while Doug admisters his rabies injection, best of luck in this endever. Speaking of Doug, good to see you again, been quite a while.

I’d be beside myself I didn’t pay proper respect to “Our Place” and all who frequent, sad to say i’m under cruch time today time wise and must be other places doing other task. until free time, keep well all and [bday] “Our Place”[swg]

Dave, the Left coaster

Evening Tom and gents! I’ll buy the next few rounds so ya’ll can wet your whistle. I promised reading material, and I’ve been given just 9 minutes to post, shower and hit the sack! Some reward for working a long day and then cutting grass and trimming just 'cuz the neighbors decided to do it today! Speaking of which … ya’ll won’t recognize the place once you see new pictures. All landscaping is done, we have zuchini the size of my arm, and I even put in a drippy fountain. I’m considering a pond with a waterfall around the patio though. Gotta give Tom a place to hang out since the air in the house is polluted with a cat, and Tom can’t come inside. Here’s the reading material as promised. Part I style!

Fire in Tunnel 9 by Peter Josserland, May 1954 Railroad Magazine

Hell broke loose on the Western Pacific just after my wife and I returned from a summer vacation in 1952. I was holding down the night chief dispatcher’s desk at Sacramento and she served as a stenographer. The usual procedure is to turn a steno into a wife, but I had reversed the tradition some years before by turning Mrs. Josserland into a steno. At the time of our marriage she was just a telegrapher while I dispatched trains. All she had to do to get the job was to take a refresher course in shorthand.

This story concerns the area around Tehachapi, California. The Southern Pacific and the Santa Fe have a joint track over Tehachapi, the spot being famous for its “loop” which engineers built to control the gradient. Ess Pee men dispatch trains over this district. The Santa Fe dispatcher’s circuit also is cut in at Tehachapi, but their DS at Needles cannot direct train movements through Tehachapi, although the phone there serves other useful purpouses.

On the day I refer to, an earthquake wrecked the town of Tehachapi and put both the Southern Pacific and Santa Fe temporarily out of business down that way. This is the SP’s north-south route through

Good morning Tom and gents! I’ll have a light breakfast please. Many fine posts yesterday, to be sure, with some familiar faces, and some new! Great to see Allan, and I noticed Eric defying doctor orders to take it easy. JanOlov is a new face to me. Welcome! Glad you liked the poem Pers. I don’t know if there was a write-up in the local paper on the prior evening’s train-related problems. No one here has time to read the paper, so I just get a Sunday edition anymore. I see the captain was at the helm a few times yesterday as well. Yes, yesterday was inoculation and deworming day for all the critters, and Boris too, of course. The latter was also administered his monthly hosing/delousing by the Mentor Fire Department, who really do a great job with the equipment they still have on hand. We still need to return the ladders “borrowed” by the Second Class Saloon guys to play pranks on us. The FD is getting complaints about using the hoses to remove treed cats. The chief says it’s nearly impossible to figure out where to place the net when using this method of cat removal, but since the net is missing too, it hasn’t been an issue.

Whoops! Must be running to work. I will return later. In the meantime, here’s my Part II:

Fire in Tunnel 9 by Peter Josserland, May 1954 Railroad Magazine

Trouble came to a head on a Wednesday morning, August 13th. I looked up to greet dispatcher Bill Clements, who worked the district up through Feather River Canyon, as he entered the chief’s office.

“Second 62 is overdue at Pulga,” said he.

“Agitated spindle, maybe?” I asked, meaning a hotbox.

“Could be”

Of the many possible things that may delay a train, relatively few are hazardous, so we seldom start worrying until we know for sure we’ve been hurt. Feather River Canyon is tough on a railroad in winter, but this was summertime, the dry season, when Natu

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G’day Gents!

The end of the work week ‘n we call it Friday! [yeah] Check out The Mentor Village Bakery case - our Menu Board for ‘n breakfasts - and of course our freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee ‘n !! [tup]

Yesterday was one of those days we surely won’t forget ‘round here for some time. For a simple monthly anniversary day, the turnout was terrific! Appears that we had a convergence of interests - those who checked in BECAUSE of the day along with those who passed through our doors simply to enjoy the place. Either way, many THANX to all for helping to make the 27th Month Anniversary of “Our” Place one for the ages! [tup] [tup] [tup]

SPECIAL RECOGNITION to Manager Lars for going that extra mile. My guess is that without his efforts, we wouldn’t have had such a grand event! Five [tup] Salute to the Larsman!

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Customer ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):

Pete at 5:05 PM Thursday - July 12th: Nearly a 2-hour phone call from my mid-Missouri Brit friend! [wow] Man of a few words, eh [?] Always good hearing from you ‘n we covered quite a bit of ground . . .

Our monthly celebration wouldn’t