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Good late afternoon all, Tom, I think a Gilby’s Gin & Tonic this warm p.m. (83 deg. F.). CM3, that is one fantastic piece on the Boston area’s “under ground.” I was at a total loss when in 1959, I ventured “down the tubes” for a “shot” at figuring out the system’s routes, etc. The more I pondered the wall maps, the more intimidating this challenge became. At length, I just boarded the first P.C.C. that came along and some how ended up in a elevated situation. I detrained and descended the stairs into totally unfamiliar environs that seemed slightly threatening. Perhaps it was espying human excerement on the stoop of a Brownstone that engaged my “better judgement.”. I ascended the same stairs and returned to the original point of entry, thence a return to North Station and a R.D.C. back to Beverly. Thanks again for another compelling story, looking forward to “…to be continued.”[^]

Rob, maybe Tom’s buddy Vito “the hit” can arrange for some more dental surgery so your detailed replys continue to roll in? Seriously, your running commentary on some pretty “isolated short lines” and feeders have cleared up some vague issues from the past, especially where the N.Y.C., Wabash and I.C. R.R.s were concerned.[tup]

Tom, this isn’t much and probably “old hat” but maybe something may be salvaged from this “tid bit” on the B.C. Rwy. The Origin of the B.C. was formed by the P.G.E. Rwy which was financed by Investors from Grat Britain. A freight deal was worked out with the Grand Trunk Pacific R.R. under which PGE would haul all of G.T.P. R.R.'s freight between Vancouver abd Prince George. The first new loco bought by P.G.E. was built in Canada by the Montreal Locomotive Works in 1913. Number 51 and its sister #52 saw service until being scrapped in 1954. In 1918, the Province fell on hard times and P.G.E. went bankrupt. The B.C. provencial government then took control.

New construction of a popular passenger line running from North Vancouv

G’day Guys!

Awright – a couple of more customers and Posts. [tup][tup] Some acknowledgements are in order:

pwolfe Pete Posted: 05 Nov 2005, 16:21:10

Figured you’d either been havin’ problems with the ‘puter, or the bride wouldn’t let you use it! [swg] Glad you stopped by ……

[yeah] St. Louis was quite a rail center and corporate HQ in its day with MoPAC, Frisco, Wabash and Illinois Terminal located here and all running passenger trains out of Union Station.

Pehaps that friend of yours who viewed CM3s subway info would like to join us at the bar. The more the merrier! [tup]

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 05 Nov 2005, 16:25:50

Just love “stuff” regarding BC Rail/PGE. One of my proudest moments in model railroading came when I “discovered” the availability of a very limited run of Proto 1000s by LifeLike Canada of BC Rail RDC3s (two separate numbers). Snapped ‘em up and it was one of those things that I just had to do. A “neat” thing is that one of the numbered cars is a replica of the car we traveled in between N. Vancouver and Lillooet, BC. Always nice to have a car on the pike that you can “relate” to. The colo(U)rs, the detail – it’s all there. They run well too on my “mountain division.”

By the by, I’m a real sucker for Gilbey’s Gin! Love it, especially during the warmer climes. Think I’ll forego the brew and have one in a tall glass, with a twist of lime! Ummmmmmm. [tup]

Okay – gotta skedaddle as they say. We’ve got some evenin’ plans so Cindy will have the bar until Leon the Night Man arrives. It’s Saturday night, so enjoy! [tup]

Remember, We’re CLOSED on Sundays, but it’s also SUNDAY PHOTO POSTING DAY!

Catch ya later!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

Good morning all! Here’s my submission for the mail slot! This has been my most hectic week in terms of being so busy that I didn’t have time to get to the computer at all. Long days at work have been rewarded with even longer days at work, but I managed to still get to the IRM yesterday to do some sanding and wire brushing on our BN 5383. I tried to get a few pics of relevant fallen flag stock, but dopey me forgot to re-charge the battery in the digital cam, so my offering is not going to be too great today.
Tom, I wanted to locate our Budd RDC for you, but that’s going to have to wait. We’re really closed these days, and the barns are pretty much only open to the people who do volunteer work in them. I only feel comfortable being in the diesel barn anymore. It’s really strange to only see a a few dozen people on the property, and the barns essentially closed. They still play big-band era music over the loudspeakers though.
However, I can submit some Southern Railway pics!

This is our Minneapolis Northfield & Southern Railway 21, built by Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1948. Length: 74ft 3in, Width: 9ft 6in, Height: 16ft 8in,
Weight: 356000 lbs, and 2000HP.

This is Southern Railway 10 1948 Pullman private car “Susan Marie”. Length: 82ft, Width: 10ft 1in, Height: 15ft 1in and Weight: 211240 lbs.
I believe it was Ted who asked if we had plans to restore the 975 Southern Pacific in last weeks photos. Sadly, the answer is not in my lifetime. The big steam efforts these days, are to get the 1630 Frisco Decapod back on the rails ASAP, as I’m sure you recall that we didn’t run steam in 2005. The current resoration project is the UP 428 Consolidation, and there is no completion date that can even be guessed.
I hope no one here gets the impression that the IRM is at all stagnant. We have so many projects going

Yes, I know its Sunday, so in the “slot” this epistle goes. There that does it. Its too early for the Pix to be posted but I’m sure looking forward to seeing them.[^] This could wait until Monday but I awoke wide eyed at 5:00 a.m. with nothing to do after visiting the Drudge Report pages. Then, I remembered the subject of modeling a subway which has peaked imterest for some of us.

To be honest, I literally LOL when I first heard of the idea. I was thinking, how can you make something as mundane as “look alike” subway cars, buried out of sight interesting?[:O] Well, of course, that would be missing the point entirely, wouldn’t it? Its really more about recapturing our life’s past experiences via a H. G. Wells “time machine” sort of reincarnation. But then it crossed my mind, what an opportunity for employing the latest tech (DCC) for a totally automated train control situation. A “hands free” realistic stop and go operation of the trains would be possible with just a few commands entered into the remote. Even sound could be added to bring an otherwise, lack luster scene to life. So, maybe a subway isn’t such a static addition after all. A modeler could go wild with a “endless” moving conveyer strip with “figures” attached, simulating a crowded commuter station. As Tom pointed out, the plexi glass panels would afford full view of some operations. There could be one danger, however. The scene could steal the show if done properly.

That’s enough Sunday “pipe dreams” from me. Let’s see those frames come rolling in.

SUNDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

Mornin’ All!

Info for the Day:

(1) Today is SUNDAY PHOTO POSTING DAY! and of course the bar is CLOSED.

(2) Friday, November 11th is Veteran’s Day (U.S.) and Remembrance Day (Canada & Great Britain). In recognition of all those who have served or are serving, let’s do something special on that day at ”Our” Place.

Find something to Post that is reflective of either of the World Wars that has some connection to the railroads, the war effort or both. Advertisements abound from those times, so it shouldn’t be too difficult.

With a week to prepare, my hope is that we’ll get good participation! [tup][tup][tup]

INDEX Mondays only!

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Nov 2005, 06:26:03 (155) Saturday’s Info & Summary

(2) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 05 Nov 2005, 10:42:35 (155)

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Nov 2005, 12:28:18 (155) ENCORE! WP

(4) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 05 Nov 2005, 12:56:12 (155) Inclusive Post!

(5) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 05 Nov 2005, 13:06:28 (155)

(6) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 05 Nov 2005, 13:22:33 (155) Encore, Classic Juice #3 MS&C

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Nov 2005, 15:35: (155) reply to Theodorebear & trolleyboy

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!

Here are some Pix from an album I created for Chris taken at The Canadian Railway Museum at Delson/Saint-Constant, Quebec, Canada:

Click to enlarge!

Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

. Oops!

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!

Here are some Pix you may have seen before of the N-scale layout on display in KCity’s Union Station in September.

Click to enlarge!

That’s it – Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

Afternoon

Thank you very much for the kind words Tom and yes the memories will always be there. The other thing I didn’t realize was how many pictures I do have with him as I was going through them about a week ago to post some in the CS and they will always be with me. I wanted to post this in Our Place as I thought you would see it here first and again Thanks.

Duke

How about if I leave this tacked to the front as I didn’t know you were closed on Sunday.

Evenin’,

Just checkin’ out the place for tomorrow and saw the Posts that were dropped through the mail slot, along with the pix from barndad Doug.

The boyz and I just returned from our Sunday afternoon up at Can-Am Gorge and this was the first time Boris had his pet Armadillo, Tex with him. Between Leon, Boris and the Armadillo things were a bit “interesting” to say the least. Phew ……. How in the world did I ever get involved with these characters [?][swg]

barndad Doug Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 07:03:41 and 10:19:45

Appreciate the narratives you provided along with the Pix. Some good “stuff,” indeed.

Is that MN&S a U-boat? Sure looks like it. Also, the SR heavyweight is a great looking car. Didn’t know that they had that color scheme back in those times.

Don’t be concerned about the RDC pix – there will be other Sundays! Appreciate the thought – isn’t it “The thought that counts” [?] [tup]

As busy as you’ve been, it’s nice to know you’ve been able to keep up with the conversations goin’ on ‘round here. We may be down in numbers, but the quality of Posts has never been better.

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 07:11:18

You ARE the Manager ‘round here and have the keys – why not just slide in and enjoy the place [?] I’ve had more than my share of wakin’ up early – it’s a way of life for me. Reveille is at 5:10 AM, and most times I’m awake well before that …….

Interesting thoughts you posit regarding the “look alike” subway cars. I like the way you worked your way through your thoughts to come up with your conclusion. [tup] Ever think that RDCs also fall into the same category, but somehow there IS a place for ‘em on many pikes [?] [swg]

Ordered my first subway set today and it is to ship tomorrow, so I’m on the way!

For me, there’s absolutely NOTHING that can rival a matched consist of

Good evening I know we are closed on Sunday but my guests just departed and I wanted to get back to my RDC reminising from the other day when they arrived.
Another intersting RDC trip was on CP Rail when they were operating between Calgary and Edmonton just before VIA Rail Canada. The Consist was an RDC 2 and an RDC 1 and the interesting feature was they operated with borrowed Stewardesses from CP Air to see if this would attract more riders. The stewardess pushed a drink car down the aisle of the two cars and served drinks just like they had on the planes. They only served snacks as well as the drinks as the RDC’s operated during non-meal hours. I don’t know if they were successful or not for Via Rail took over the service shortly after I rode these RDC’s.
RDC trips I wish I had ridden would include the Northwestern Pacific to Eureka on the lone SP RDC.
The AT&SF pair of RDC when they operated between Albuquerque and El Paso.
I don’t know whether it was my imagination playing tricks with me or not but I seem to recall a rather unique swaying motion the RDC’s had compared to regular trains and i was always able to sleep easily on the cars. Of course being a truckdriver for many years it has been said I could sleep standing up in a line waiting for dispatchers to get off the phone with other drivers.
When I get a chance I will try and catch up on some of the other postings you have had the last few days but I still have to get ready for finals in another week and a half.

MONDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

G’day All!

Info for the Day:

(1) Wednesday is Pike Perspectives Day! A good time for those engaged in the model railroading hobby (or any other aspect of railroading for pleasure) to discuss and Post what they are doing, have done, or plan to do. [tup]

(2) Thursday is Fish ‘n Chips Nite!. [dinner] Dinner begins at 5 PM. [tup]

(3) Friday is Pizza Nite! along with Steak ‘n Fries Nite! [dinner] Dinner begins at 5 PM. [tup]

(4) Friday, November 11th is Veteran’s Day (U.S.) and Remembrance Day (Canada & Great Britain). In recognition of all those who have served or are serving, let’s do something special on that day at ”Our” Place.

Find something to Post that is reflective of either of the World Wars that has some connection to the railroads, the war effort or both. Advertisements abound from those times, so it shouldn’t be too difficult.

With ample time to prepare, my hope is that we’ll get good participation! [tup][tup][tup]

INDEX Mondays only!
Generic URL: Just insert the index page in place of “106,” copy ‘n paste ‘n “go,”

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=106&TOPIC_ID=35270

-or- insert the index page in the address portion of this page (at the top).

Fallen Flags (passenger ops)

106/150 SP……. 106/150 MoPac . 108/155 WP …… 109 Frisco
112 CNR ………. 112 Heralds …… 114 ACL

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Chicago Great Western Railway (CGW)

Headquarters: Chicago (moved to Kansas City)

Mileage in 1950: 1,458

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 141

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars; 4,490
Passenger cars: 33

Principal routes in 1950:

Chicago-Olewein, IA-Omaha, NE
Oelwein-Minneapolis
Oelwein-DesMoines, IA-St. Joseph, MO-Kansas City, MO
Clarion, IA-Mason City, IA-Austin, MN-Hayfield, MN
Osage, IA-Rochester, MN-Red Wing, MN
Red Wing-Mankato, MN
Simpson-Winona, MN

Passenger trains of note:

Blue Bird (Twin Cities-Rochester)
Great Western Limited (Chicago-Twin Cities)
Rochester Special (Twin Cities-Rochester)
Red Bird (Twin Cities-Rochester)
Legionnaire (Chicago-Twin Cities)
Minnesotan (Chicago-Twin Cities)
Mills Cities Limited (Kansas City-Twin Cities)
Nebraska Limited (Twin Cities-Omaha
Twin Cities Limited (Omaha-Twin Cities)

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

Mornin’ Gents!

I just received a notice from RailImages.com informing me that they are going to be shutting down the service (pix storage & posting) some time this week as they are installing newer equipment. For all who store pix on that site, they will not be available. This will impact my Posts as well and I am going to place as many as possible over on PhotoBucket.com until RailImages comes back on line. Any of you who have accounts should have received your RailImages notice.

Well, yesterday was perhaps the lightest Sunday Photo Posting Day! that we’ve had since it began several weeks ago. Only barndad Doug and I particpated. My plans [?] No changes, we’ll keep Sunday open for Pix, with the bar CLOSED. I don’t expect lots of “narratives” on Sunday, that’s what the rest of the week is for. [tup]

One acknowledgement:

passengerfan Al Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 21:31:33

That run between Calgary and Edmonton has been discussed, several times, for institution of a light-rail connection. I would think that modern DMUs from the RDC lineage would be far better. For a trip like that (177 miles/285 km), comfort surely would of prime importance and consideration.

Yes, RDCs were absolutely perfect for the runs you described and it is indeed puzzling why we cannot reinstitute rail connections between our metropolitan areas by more modern technology. High speed rail is fine - but I’m thinking MAGLEV. After all, we are in the 21st century. All the talk of the Northeast Corridor in the U.S. and the Corridor in Canada - can you imagine having the most modern equipment on the line for those routes [?] Ahhhhh, yes, dream on.

You know if Congress and the President goes for it, organizations like H&R Block may be on the outside lookin’ in concerning tax preparation “services.” Sorry, but anything and everything that can be done to make the taxation less intrus

Good Morning All: Coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Rough weekend off to our west; a coworker from that part of the world said that several of her relatives lost their homes, but thankfully, no injuries or fatalities in her family.

Enjoyed reading through the posts. The MN&S locomotive is a true “beast.” It looks like it was running (at least from the pictures). Does it still have its original power plant. My exposure to Baldwins was mostly samller ones on the Lehigh Valley; truly a unique sound. They’d pull anything you could put behind them.

I enjoyed the response to the Boston subway story about “picking a PCC.” BTW, the maps in the MBTA stations are often out of date; again something done to confuse the tourists, I guess. The station that is currently called “Downtown Crossing” used to be Washington St. All of the big department stores were located there and it was a transfer point as well to what is now called the “Orange Line.” Anyway (and this is the God’s truth) there was a set of signs that read as follows. “This Way Out.” Follow along and you came to a second sign which said “This Way Out.” Follow along and you came to a third sign posted on a bricked up doorway. The sign said “This Is Not the Way Out.” Sort of a metaphor for life.

I trust it will be O.K. to post wartime material a little ahead of schedule as I’ll be offline on Friday. Do true stories count as well?

work safe

Mornin’ early people, Tom, think I’ll go with a “eye opener” this a.m. I got into a pretty good discussion last night that ran later than it shoul have.[:O] Sooo, maybe a “Stoli” Vodka, V-8 and hold the garbage please. That’ll “kill me or cure me!” Some nice pix yesterday, especially the N gauge layout at KCity Union Station. Seeing the background balconies and main entrances of the building takes me “way, way back.” The last time I was there was on X-mas leave 1964. I changed Santa Fe trains there enroute from Chicago to Tulsa, OK. The El Capitan “high level” cars were on the first leg and Budd stainless on the last. I never failed to meet nice folks on those lengthy rail treks. I suppose the uniform served as a “ice breaker” too.

Later in the 1970’s, when people had their “fill” of the prolonged Viet Nam War, I began driving my 1965 Dodge Polara instead. There was a lot of resentment against the war then and thoughtless people made it known through “icey stares” and the proverbial “cold shoulder” toward uniformed service people. I really didn’t need 2-1/2 days of rude behavior from unkempt, surly “dirt bags” in a confined space and, of course, driving (via I-State) was much faster and a lot cheaper. Even though I knew where and why this misplaced animosity was coming from, I must be honest and say it really irked me.[V] Sorry, I’m [#offtopic] again.[#oops]

Oh yes Tom, there are many who would point out the “vanilla” aspects of some rolling stock, i.e. subway cars, R.D.C.'s and the like. I don’t happen to be one of that number. For me, if its on rails, I’m in the game.[^] Passengerfan Al mentioned a distictive “feel” of the ride peculiar to the R.D.C. and I agree. For lack of a better word, I refer to the motion as a “gliding” effect. It is a much lighter unit than the heavier Budd cars and a feather weight compared to ealier standard cars. I can tell you that my ride from Baltimore to Wash. D.C. in the cab of a B & O RDC-3 was purely a pleasur

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Guess I’ll have a coffee and one of the diet pastries from Mentor Bakery.
Just had to answer the CGW fallen Flag.
Somethings one never forgets and my one and only ride on the CGW Mills Cities was one of those. I was only four at the time but I remember we had traveled all night from St. Paul on this miserable excuse for a train my motrher my tyounger brother and I were on our way to rejoin my dad in Missouri. We had traveled from Vancouver Canada on the Great Northern including the brand new streamlined Empire Builder from Everett to St. Paul. in February 1947.
The Mill Cities was an old heavyweight train as wwe were approching the station at our final destination my mother with my brother in her arms suffered a terrible fall when the slack went out and the sudden jerk caused her to fall. So we arrived in St. Joe with my mother going immediatly to the hospital and not released for about two weeks. Here was my brother and I meeting my dads side of the family for the first time and we were strangers to them. But being midwesterners my brother and my worst fears were soon put at ease by our new aunts Uncles cousins and grandmother. We never rode the CGW again after that one experience and made yearly trips to the Northwest via the CB&Q, CRI&P, and GN to vist my mothers familys for a couple years until we relocated to Seattle. Then it was once a year trips to the relatives in Missouri but never again did we ride CGW rails. I guess today if something like that had happened their would have been a lawsuit. But as I recall the CGW picked up the hospital bill and that was that.
The train we rode after that was the CRI&P Twin Star Rocket and then the local CB&Q train between Kansas City and St. Joe.
Have to get back to the books for now.

G’day Gents!

A bit windy, warm and cloudy here in mid-Continent USA. Gas at “Collusion Corner” was at $2.20 (rounded) and expected to continue downward – at least until someone sneezes at OPEC, Venezuela, Mexico, the North Sea, etc. [swg]

I see we’ve had a bit of activity this AM at the bar, so some acknowledgements are in order:

coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 08:15:01

Regarding the Veteran’s/Remembrance Day Posts – absolutely, true stories surely are appropriate. Also, if you can, Post on Thursday if your plans will have you away from the Ether on Friday. [tup]

I’d appreciate some help – the Fallen Flag for the day was posted at 5:25 AM. Your Post was about 3 hours later. Just curious, when you logged on, did you see it [?] This is not intended to the chastisement so much as I really want to know since it appears that my efforts to get the “word” out early isn’t reaching the intended audience. If not, then I’ll have to figure out some other way. Feedback really helps.

The only way I know of getting to the most current information is to log on – go immediately to “Active Topics” and then call up the Posts for a period of time – I recommend “last 12 hours.” It works for me. Also the use of the “Refresh” button BEFORE one Posts will bring up most current “stuff” too.

For what it’s worth, I’ve encountered those “This is not the way out,” signs in my comin’s and goin’s. In Maine it would be more like, “Ya can’t get there, from heah!” [swg]

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 08:26:34

That era you referred to was the tail end of the most difficult in my experiences with our civilian not-so-civil population. I’ve already chronicled my self-defense involving a dirt-bag, pimpled face, “H – no, I won’t go” creep in Manhattan. I hope that his nose never healed. The stares from the less than adoring public didn’t bother me as much

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #20

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1951 advertisement in my personal collection.

Did you hear what the Cowboy said about the “Golden State”?

”WHAT A RIDE FER DUDES! SHE’S THE SMOOTHEST AND PURTIEST THING ON WHEELS FROM CHICAGO TO ARIZONA OR CALIFORNIA! ANOTHER OF SP’S WONDERFUL WAYS WEST!”

We think, you’ll enjoy our ”Golden State,” especially if you’re an experienced traveler. We have many friends who repeat, winter after winter, “chasing the sun Southwest” on this smooth, extra-fare S.P. & Rock Island streamliner. It’s convenient. Takes you via El Paso and Southern Arizona’s winter resorts to Palm Springs & Los Angeles.

She’s been re-streamlined, too, from stem to stern. We’ve issued a folder to celebrate the event and would like to send it to you. Helps you choose your accommodations, whether Pullman (Drawing rooms, Compartments, Bedrooms, Roomettes) or Chair Car (economical; Coffee Shop).

By the way, the ”Golden State” is extra fast, too – 44 ¼ pleasant hours, Chicago-Los Angeles or vice versa. Fine connecting streamliners. Perhaps you’d like to try another great S.P. route, going home. That way you see twice as much, usually for no extra rail fare. The little map shows how.

Why don’t you plan on the ”Golden State” for this winter or next summer? And meantime, let us send you that folder?

”GOLDEN STATE,” Chicago-Los Angeles, via El Paso, Douglas, Bisbee, Tucson, Phoenix, Palm Springs, 44 ¼ hours. Through Pullmans, Minneapolis and St. Louis to Los Angeles. Through Chair car, Minneapolis-Los Angele

I remember the Chicago Great Western well.

Our house had, when I was a boy, a very fine view of the Chicago Great Western tracks. From the paired dinning room windows, I could see south across four vacant lots and Great Western Boulevard to the right-of-way where long, steam hauled, freight trains ran.

Railroads were the dominant means of transportation at the time. Not only were they the major providers of passenger and freight transportation, but mail and express arrived regularly by train in Villa Park as well as in most large cities and small towns throughout America. Even the newspapers came by train; I remember seeing the motorman on the CA&E tossing off bundles of the evening Daily News at the Ardmore station. The Interstate highway system wasn’t begun until over a decade later, and airlines were still in their infancy. Rail traffic, freight and passenger, reached unprecedented levels during the war years. There were massive movements of military goods and personnel, and because of gasoline and tire rationing, much traffic, previously lost to the highways, returned to the rails. Demand on railroad personnel and equipment was tremendous. During and for awhile after World War II there were many trains loaded with army goods: I remember seeing big guns, tanks, half-tracks and jeeps.

I was still quite young when the war ended, but business on the CGW continued at a high rate. I remember solid trains of refrigerator cars, yellow ones marked Armor and red ones marked Swift. There were also trains of black tank cars. The CGW carried truck trailers on flat cars. They were an innovator of this service.

Not long after the war, the Great Western quickly dieselized. They were the first railroad of my acquaintance to do so. Typically using six General Motors F units, trains became even longer: frequently well over 100 cars. Soon I started seeing the big steam engines, scattered mid-train behind the diesels, being hauled dead to the scrap yards of Chicago