HAPPY INDEPENDENCE Day 2005!
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Since this is the 4th of July and America’s Birthday ”Our” Place invites our friends and their families to celebrate with us today …. Start with a free lunch and good times followed by fireworks at dusk! [wow] [yeah]
Come join us! [tup] [swg]
Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!
MONDAY SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)
A rather long SUMMARY – none on Sunday.
Limited comments from me along with few smilies/graphics and photos…………
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QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 11:02:29
I suppose it may be “off topic” to do very much ranting over our two Country’s Birthdays, so Tom, please ring the bell a couple of times “on me.” I would ask Boris but he has “a thing” for bell clappers. (???) Since we “did in” most of the Crown Royal yesterday (Canada Day), I’ll settle for a Jack Daniels Black Label in the interest of my “patriotic duty.” Better mix that with soda Tom as I’m not real “big” on Bourbon, thanks. These back-to-back Holidays can be down right dangerous so I’ll go home via Mylow Claude Ball’s Red Top Taxi service ( a word to the wise). Nick, if all is forgiven, please join us in the tipple of your choice a Gin and Tonic perhaps?
Rob and Gunns, you gents are far too modest in accepting the accolades from your peers with the work you guys do in preserving our great rail heritage. If I wore a hat, it would be in my hand now! Salute! This group is truly exceptional and may we all raise a tankard to the liberties we enjoy that make a site like “Our” Place possible and free from the fear of tyrannical censorship. Naturally, that goes for Jolly Olde England as well.
I did something rare this a.m. (for me). I saw a HO Roundhouse [M.D.C.I.] Pullman Palace Car kit at the LHS and did an “impulse purchase.” Its a plastic (also rare for me) model of a 1890’s A.T.& S.F. wooden observation car (80’) replete with ten oval (vanity style) windows, brass (colored) fixtures, 16 stained glass (upper) frame (arched) windows, and copius under body and roof details. I’ll use Central Valley (vintage) trucks which I “stock piled” years ago. [reminds me, I need to do an inventory soon] I’m glad I broke my oath today: i
Good Morning all and Happy 4th. I’ll take a coffee and a couple of doughnuts.
I had a great time yesterday (Sunday) at the Midland RR (Baldwin City). Got to meet Dan-earlydiesels in person. Thanks Dan for your hospitality[:)]. Also pass along thanks to Ernie and the other members of the crew working that day. The MKT RS3M looked great.
Hopefully the rain holds its cork till after the fireworks displays tonight. Mother Nature provided her own fireworks display late afternoon into late last night.
Can you believe its been almost 30 years (29 excactly) that the railroads celebrated the nation’s centennial? Here’s a reminder
Take care,
Russell
Russell You have just experienced one of the benefits of “Our” Place through the connection with Dan … that’s great! [tup]
Donuts [?] Surely you read all about the free lunch today, etc. [swg] But, the freshly baked goods from The Mentor Village Bakery are right over there, next to the coffee urns. Help yourself …
Nice photos, by the way! [tup]
Happy 4th to all!
Tom
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All of our regulars know about the Birthday Watch List … however, it needs to be posted repeatedly, just as a reminder regarding who is coming up next for the Birthday Bash …
BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST:
March 5th (Nick – 45)
April 18 (Al - 63)
May 18th (Tom - 67)
May 27th (Dave - 46)
June 24th (Dan - 43)
July 15th (*** – 65)
July 25th (Chris - 51)
August 16th (Ted - 67)
September 8th (Rob - 34)
Not on the list [?] Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year).
Tom
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Hello all and again Happy 4th. Tom, I think I’ll take you up on that free lunch [dinner][tup].
I indeed had a great time at the Midland. Dan and crew took me to Nowhere and back (you have to ask Dan).
Take care,
Russell
Hey Russell Glad you came back! I see that the free lunch has attracted the Can-Am track gang (as usual!) - but, they are a great bunch of guys and as long as we keep 'em in the back room with the pool tables, and plenty of pitchers of brew - all’s well. Too happy a day for anything to break out …
I hope either you or Dan provides us with a rundown of your day …
Enjoy! [tup]
Tom
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Good Day All Well since its the fourth of July I will start with a double Crown Royal and water back.
Remembered one of the streamlined trains in my book was inaugurated as a streamliner useing all Budd equipment on July 4, 1949.
The Train was the NYC OHIO STATE LIMITED operating overnight between New York and Cincinnati. Actually the first eastbound only operated on July fourth and the second westbound.
For train makeup the following were the consists on July fourth
WB from Harmon
4024 EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit
4109 EMD E7B 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Booster Unit
8974 Baggage 19 Crew Dormitory Car
2940 56-seat Coach
2942 56-seat Coach
2944 56-seat coach
2946 56-seat coach
485 22-seat lounge Kitchen Car
405 64-seat Dining Car
Rapid Stream 6-Double Bedroom Bar 22-seat Lounge Car
Putnam Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
Eden Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
Monroe Harbor 22-Roomette Sleeping Car
Onandaga Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
Lebanon Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
Pine Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
Fall Brook 5-Double Bedroom Bar 25-Seat Lounge Observation
EB from Cincinnati
4028 EMD E7A 2,000HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit
4111 EMD E7B 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Booster Unit
8973 Baggage 19-Crew Dormitory Car
2941 56-Seat Coach
2943 56-Seat Coach
2945 56-Seat Coach
2947 56-Seat Coach
486 22-Seat Lounge Kitchen Car
407 64-Seat Dining Room Car
Rainbow Stream 6-Double Bedroom Bar 22-Seat Lounge Car
Yosemite Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
Cumberland Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
Tonawanda Harbor 22-Roomette Sleeping Car
Schoharie Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
Orchard Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
Mohaw
For: passengerfan Al - Good seeing you this fine day! Crown and a sandwich - why not [?] [tup]
15-car passenger consists just brings a smile to my face [:)] - can envision it almost as if it was passing right in front of me. What was the livery of that particular train [?] Those NYC lightning bolts were really impressive … I liked them best with PA’s … Sure brings back some memories. Never rode that particular train - but every now and then used to go up to Albany and return to NYC just for fun … great scenery back then.
Enjoy the day! [tup] [;)]
Tom
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Hello everyone. I’ll take one of those cold, bottomless draughts, please. I’ll raise my glass in tribute to all veterans and propose a moment of silence for those who made the ultimate sacrifice. Without their selfless sacrifice, our founding fathers dreams of a country would have been a short lived experiment. Thanks.
It was nice to meet Russ yesterday. I am glad he enjoyed himself. I rode the second train of the day in a coach and was surprised when our conductor said the engineer(G.M.) hollered at me on the radio. I was on the ground at our endpoint helping the patrons detrain and was informed about Russ’s presence in the cab. I rode back with Russ and tried to talk but my voice does’nt carry well, especially in the cab of a working EMD with the doors open! After arrival back at Baldwin, we were able to talk some more and Russ was probably able to check out more of our equipment. When you were leaving, Russ, I was in the cab of the switcher and we were preparing to do some switching to put back in the train the other Canadian coach for the Thomas the Tank event. We also pulled all the cabooses out of the runaround track and shoved them north out of the way so our track gang could hopefully fini***he track. I realize you were running late but had you stayed, you could have rode with me in the 524 while switching. To me, switching is more fun than even running all 11 miles with the passenger train.
I’ll take another ice cold, bottomless draught, please.What’s this about free food?? The photos were nice, Russ. Ernie is our official photographer among all his other duties, so rare is the photo with him in it.Wish he had a computer. Hope you can come out again. The invitation is still open to anyone of the OUR PLACE gang to ride the Midland.
Hey Dan Lookin’ good on that stool! [swg] Free lunch all day - right over there on the two buffet tables … help yourself! [tup] Fireworks starts soon out back …
I think that’s a great thing for you to do regarding the open invitation to “Our” Place customers to experience the Midland Railway. Hope to get out there myself, maybe with a friend or two …
Enjoy the ngiht! [;)]
Tom
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Tom the livery of the NYC Ohio State limited was the grey with lightening stripes on thge diesel but the cars were all stainless steel from Budd. Pretty impressive fifteen car trains you are right but before that summer was over they had grown to eighteen cars regularly and winters the consist averaged about twelve during the fifties. By the sixties the consists were ten or less summers and eight ofr less winters and then they started combining the trains with other trains between NY and Buffalo - Cleveland. Then the NYC began selling cars to the NdeM and Canadian National as they were surplus to their dwindling needs.
Evening passengerfan Al - Can hardly hear myself think with the noise of this place and the fireworks going off outside … [swg]
Appreciate the info on the NYC … I can’t remember the last time I traveled aboard a passenger train in the U.S. that had 15 cars, much less 12. With VIA Rail in Canada, it’s commonplace, as you well know.
A question regarding the NYC oval … did they use a different motiff for passenger as opposed to freight [?] Back in those times when attracting the public’s attention through the magazine ads and billboards was a huge part of passenger railroad advertising, I recall seeing differnt NYC ovals for passenger in those ads than appeared on the freght ads. Thoughts [?]
Enjoy the night! [tup] [;)]
Tom
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Good evening folks. I hope everyone had a safe holiday. I’m reposting this as it’s attempy yesterday was snatched away by the computer gremlins.Tom I’ve always liked Keiths I first sampled it in Halifax when my sister and her hubby were living out there.I go for it whem I’m in an ale mood.A thought if you are going for an non operating traction line,you might as well grab a length of the ORR track custom made girder rail. It’s expensive to do a whole layout with it but for a little piece why not? Of coarse Ted’s suggestion would look quite good as well. www.customtraxx.com . Ted I like the royal order idea sounds catchy.Of coarse to use the term “ROYAL” in an organizations name you need royal approval. Good thing Nick is a memeber he could present our petition maybe.Speaking of which glad your back online Nick. A good thing too because Boris was itching to take over the chefs picks on fish night. He mentioned something about whipping up spider goulash[XX(] early Nice shot of the RS I have never gotten use to the genetically modified [alien] alco diesels. The first I remember seeing was on my one trip out to BC. CPR chopped the noses on their RS2’s and some RS3’s for humpyard service. The BCR also repwoered a couple of RS18’s with cat engines and the ended up woth big wing like radiators ala GE locomotives quite odd looking. Still it’s nice to see so much vintage equipment still putting in time for everyones enjoyment.[tup]passenger Al Let me know when the books ready to be printed. Our museum’s gift shop speaciallizes in selling rail books and videos. We would likely order quite a few. Passenger rail books sell quite well in the shop along side the traction and Ian Wilson’s CNR steam series.Gunns How is the drill press modifications comming. I wasn’t quite straight on how you were doing it. Did you say that you were leaving the trucks on the tender while you were preping them for the new bearings? I’m just wondering if you can take the t
Was it Ms Columbine that stated: “There are no cyber hang-overs?” If that is true; I just made medical history![V] Between the J.Daniels and the bombastic fireworks; my “frontal-lobotomy” is now pending [aside: or, is that: “bottle-in-front-of-me?”] Please Tom, just a Bromo Seltzer, “shaken-not stirred,” if you will?.[xx(]
Rob, I can’t take credit for the “Royal Order of the Permanent Stools” idea. That honor belongs to Passengerfan Al’s penchent for prose. Tom mentioned that the “idea” is just now in Committee. Perhaps, as you said, [C=:-)]Nick might use his influence at his next audience with the Queen on this matter.[bow]
Yes, the famous “lightning stripes” (N.Y.C.) livery is a favorite of mine also. However, I prefer the two tone gray smooth sides cars and the 2 level stripes on the boat tail Observation.[^] Also, the EMD, E-6 A-units (bevel nose) get my [2c] vote; it’s “right up there” with the Santa Fe War Bonnets.[[tup] Sorry Russ, I just had to say it! Hey Gunns, that aaprco.com site is a "Keeper.}[tup] Thanks for sending it along. Tom, your “show case” idea is duly noted and a possibility. For now, I’ll just park the Pullman Palace on a siding (next to turntable) as a leased Business Car. Oh, I don’t know if you might consider a Mono Rail (downtown) should you decide to “take the plunge” for “light rail?”[swg] My “return” on the next Fourth was in regard to the [soapbox], not “Our” Place. [aside: Some people like me just can’t take a hint]
Here it is Wednesday (trash day) and we haven’t begun to to remove the top layer of last night’s refuse![:O] It truly was an inspiring party though, especially when Boris posed as the Statue of Liberty with a Roman Candle in his raised right hand. I understand he will be wearing a toupee pending natural hair growth.[alien] Any rate, I doubt if his laytex “Playboy Bunnys” will object very much. Okay, let’s get started on last night’s carnage before Cluel
TUESDAY SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)
Morning Gang!
The long weekend for many has come to a close and we’re into one of those four day work weeks that for some strange reason seem longer than the normal five. Wonder why that is [?]
We now have twelve regulars in our cyber bar ‘n grill. I surely would appreciate it if before making a post on this thread, that you take the time to check the posts since your last visit. To do otherwise is simply placing the future of this thread in jeopardy. Been there, seen that elsewhere …… not something for ”Our” Place.
Okay, on to the SUMMARY Limited comments from me along with few smilies/graphics and photos…………
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QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 11:18:04
Russell You have just experienced one of the benefits of “Our” Place through the connection with Dan … that’s great!
Donuts [?] Surely you read all about the free lunch today, etc. But, the freshly baked goods from The Mentor Village Bakery are right over there, next to
Mornimg all,
Coffee and Danish,
Trollyboy the trucks are on a section of “panel” track next to the Locomotive, but they are Big, 11 tons each, what I am attempting to do is build a portable boring machine to clean up the pivot points between the side frames of the Buckeye trucks. We will build a parallel out of 3 inch angle iron and place it parallel and above to the hole to be machined, after alinging the parallel we will secure it to the frame as ridgedly as possable. Then we will put a support rod< <probably a chunk of 3 inch cold rolled I have sitting around> that will hold the brackets that support the boring bar. the boring bar will be driven by a roll motor and we will pu***he bar through the pivot hole. The Frame will have to be alinged useing our car jacks so as to have all the bearing surfaces properly alingned to each other. On advice from the guys at the “home Machinist” site http://www.chaski.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?Cat=&C=1 I am scrapping the drill press idea in favor of a simpler approch.
Ted I like the site too but no one said “what cars they wanded on the train” , maby the dance club car?
Have fun all Gotta go pay bills.
Gunns
All of our regulars know about the Birthday Watch List … however, it needs to be posted repeatedly, just as a reminder regarding who is coming up next for the Birthday Bash …
2005 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST (rev. July 5th):
February 2nd (Kevin – 49)
March 5th (Nick – 45)
April 18 (Al - 63)
May 18th (Tom - 67)
May 27th (Dave - 46)
June 24th (Dan - 43)
July 15th (*** – 65)
July 25th (Chris - 51)
July 30th (Russell – 34)
August 16th (Ted - 67)
September 8th (Rob - 34)
Not on the list [?] Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year).
Tom
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Good morning Tom. If Boris isn’t too busy with his ummm friends,I’m wondering if I could have the ole bottomless cup o joe and a short stack maybe?Gunns Thanks for the drill prees update. I was having trouble vissualizing what you were doing. Sounds like the new approach will work better.[tup] for you mechanically inclined people. Here I thought I was getting extremly high tech last summer when I was sanding down and repainting parts of the interior of S37 oh well every little bit helps.Ted Do they even still make bromo seltzer? I haven’t seen it on shelves up here in a long time. Not since gavisgone and the like have come out on the market.Hering the name reminds me of our one museum member. he teaches at the University of Guelph (physics) He has been getting reproduction ad art from a small company in San Fran, these guys reproduce the old header signs ( ads inside busses and streetcars) They add a nice period touch to the cars seiing the vintage arrow collor or lux soap adds etc.I’m sure that we have some bromo seltzer and brill creame adds as well.Well I’ve got to scoot looks like a thundery day’s ahead, I’ll try to pop back in later. Rob
Hello all, I’ll take my usual. We enjoyed a great fireworks display last nite at one of the area parks. More displays were going off on the drive home. The funniest thing that the haze in the air was actually from all the fireworks (both backyard and public displays). The haze was gone this morning.
All KC chiefs fans are mourning the loss of Hank Stram, the Hall of Fame coach who has the best winning record for the Chiefs, passed away Sunday at the age of 82 after a long battle with a disease. He led our Chiefs to two Superbowls (I and IV), which we won nbr IV. A Toast to Hank and a big Thank You for what you accomplished. For more info go to www.kcchiefs.com
Tom, thanks for including me on the b-day bash list. Remember, nothing over the top for me[;)] Last time I really “celebrated” my birthday was when I turned 21, but that’s a whole different looonnnng story.
Dan, I have another picture of Ernie at the helm. The name of the guy standing on the steps has escaped my mind. I do know that he made engineer that Sunday morning. Pass along a congrats from me.
Trolleyboy, the Midland’s ex-MKT RS3M is an alco-emd hybrid. For more info go to their website at www.midland-ry.org and then equipment photos.
Ted, I will admit the NYC lightning stripes are an attractive scheme. I always thought Chessie’s multi-color job with the sleeping kitten logo was one of the tops of the Eastern roads.
I’ll have another Miller Lite please.
Take care, Russell