For: Trolleyboy Rob Short stack and a Keith’s coming up! OOOOOOooooops - you said Joe - sorry! [swg]
Just did a check on www.dogpile.com (search engine, no joke!) and found numerous sources for Bromo Seltzer! Nevertheless, WE have plenty 'round here. Take a closer look at this place - go on - check out the pix - this is an OLD building with lotsa places upstairs where OLD things are stored away. Must be seven gross of Bromo Seltzer packages tucked away beneath one of the feather beds.
Boris is in a great mood this fine day, we found a bicycle tire tub repair kit for him. Gloria has returned to full form! [}:)]
You can send some of those thunder heads down this way - we haven’t seen an appreciable rain fall since Mobey *** was a Minnow - or so it seems!
For: Trainnut484 Russell Nice, cold Miller Lite with a frosty mug … [tup]
I was stationed in NYC when the AFL began in 1960. The New York Titans (later to become the Jets) played in the old Polo Grounds in Manhattan, right across the Harlem River from Yankee Stadium. Anyway, the Dallas Texans (later to become the KC Chiefs) played the Titans and Hank Stram of course was their coach. Tickets were never a problem in those early years and the game was wide open … I mean fling that ball and run like the wind to catch it type of football. Lotsa fun … Hank was one helluva man and for anyone who appreciates real football with thinking men at the helm - he was tops in my book. RIP, Hank Stram! [:(]
Glad to see you on the Birthday Watch List. Thanx for participating! [tup]
By the by, it was me who talked about the NYC livery with the lightning bolts. Not that it was my favorite color scheme, but just pretty neat looking back in those times. I have an HO Alco PA/PB in that scheme and a freight F7A/B in it as well. They are both now in my retired wall mounted show cases in the Can-Am trainroom.
Favorite livery [?] Well, there were many - not just one, believe me. I’ve ALWAYS liked the AT&SF “war bonnets” in red for passenger and blue for freight. Back when the Chiefs were the flagships of the Santa Fe - those magnificant trains looked soooooooooo cool. [yeah] As i said, there ARE others - loved the Canadian Pacific maroon/grey with the beaver heralds - [yeah]. Perhaps a topic in and of itself [?]
Hello everyone. I’ll take the usual ice cold, bottomless draught, please. Russ, I really liked the newest pix you posted. The young man on the steps is Rob, who as you stated, got promoted to engineer that morning. If you look up the track behind the train, you will see our NW2 waiting for the train to pull out of town so I could do some switching.
Paint schemes. Midland’s president owns several locos, 3 of which are exNYC which he keeps in TN on another demonstration rr. They are painted in lightning stripe and run great. I wish sometime we could go ride them. Sometimes that rr runs 4 E8s together-- what a symphony for the ears!! He used to work for NYC and PC and owns our RS3,also. About any paint scheme created in the early days of diesels by EMD or Alco are great. I wi***here were more color pix existing from that era. Ever since coming to the Midland, I’ve a special place in my heart for the old Rock Island colors on our E8. Ernie “hooked” me with a cab ride in that loco on our very first jaunt there.
Another draught, please. I wonder if the juke box has Johnny Cash singing “Rock Island Line”? Our rr puts out a newspaper every season for distribution to patrons. I hope Russ got one before he left. It is quite informative.
Afternoon Tom and the gang. Cold house draft with a shaved ham-turkey & provolone on sourdough bread with spicy mustard on the side if you could please.
I’ve been UA of late, too busy investing much hard earned and saved cash for a new home within the last week. I occasionaly have the luck of the Irish by finding a 3BD-2bath residence with pool in a upscale area for under 500K.
Otherwise, not much on my end.
Tom.
I finally had the oppertunity to review your S project, You have a fantastic concept and great photos to boot , great job with the lightweight base, I’m considering adapting it for my layout, so how about the specifics for the framework. How about scenery, structures? Now that you’ve taken the plunge into S how does it compare with your other scales, cost aside?
Did all have a good 4th? We did a simple BBQ with the wife and family and my recently adopted cannine Leo.
For: earlydiesels Dan Frosty cold botomless draught comin’ right up! [tup]
Really “dig” those RS series of loco’s. In one of my display cases for retired loco’s is an RS2 in NYC livery with lightning stripe. It’s an AHM HO beauty - purchased way back in the late 60’s and if I recall, the price was under $15! I still have the box … I should check it out. Anyway, great series of loco’s - real or model. [tup]
We’ve got just about every hit that Johnny Cash ever had - there’s a jar full of quarters right over there - 5 plays for a quarter - help yourself! [swg]
“I never met a livery man I didn’t like”(Will Rogers). The only possible exception would be the Florida East Coast Line with that weird shade of violet, purple, wine, burgandy?[:O] BTW, Minnie the Moocher (my cat) is a dead ringer for the C & O (Chessie) kitten, same pattern of markings, etc. Minnie keeps about the same hours for r. & r. as well. I’m doing B & O and Southern Rwy (HO) mainly because I love their steam and livery of the Diesels. Probably wondering why I “scratch built” the K.C. Union Station, aren’t you…## DON’T ASK![(-D] It just came naturally.[:-^]
[#offtopic] Yes Rob, the old Bromo Seltzer Building is still a prominent landmark in dowtown Baltimore. The architecture appears to be of the early WPA gothic or perhaps late Halloween period. In any case, I rarely use the stuff. Another “shot” will either “kill ya or cure ya.” However, do not try this at home![xx(]
Gunns, I guess my private car lease must be the Georgia 300. She’s the closest one to me out of the whole lot and not a shabby looking old gal at that. Hey folks, Gunns just may have something here. How many are we, a dozen? Imagine if we could all find a suitable time frame for “chiping in” and leasing our own car, “coast to coast.?” Everyone could bring their brides to do the cooking and washing while we sit on the open platform waving at the traffic.[^] Yes, I know Tom, I’m awaiting a “pink slip” for that one.[8]
Russell, yes indeed the loss of Hank Stram and those heady days in K.C. football will never be forgotten. Bud Wilkinson’s name comes to mind along with Ari Parsigan {Sp.?} as well. They just aren’t making them anymore! Try to invision their salaries (today) if they were.[:O] Is it just me, or have all pro sports lost that personal “connection” to our respective “home towns?”[:(]
Okay, I’ve worked-up a powerful thirst here Tom. How about a tall “Bloody Shame Mary,” less the garbage? Maybe it wil
For: West Coast S
You’re in luck - that spread over there on the buffet table is on the house Fresh bread this AM - meats and cheeses all from yesterday and refrigerated over night. Help yourself! [tup] [swg]
House hunting in California! Yikes. Been there, done that back in the mid-80’s in SoCal. Horrible luck as I had to go unaccompanied for what turned out to be my final tour in my 32 year career. Anyway, the prices then would gag a healthy maggot - so when you refer to $500k, I’m surprised that there any in that price range.
Well, suck it in Mate - mortgages are like hemorrhoids, everyone gets at least one, sooner or later! [}:)] Good luck in your new digs! Party at Dave’s House! [yeah]
Glad you like the S-gauge progress. Specifics [?] Well, pretty simple actually. I used 2" insulated foam - two 4x8 ft sheets for my 4x7 ft layout. The frame is aluminum “angle iron” with some bracing beneath it all in the form of flat lengths of aluminum stock. When in the “down” position, the whole thing rests on three saw horses - collapsable type - one at either end and one in the middle.
Now, there’s much left to do - landscaping in partifcular. I’m not going to do much else - probably no buildings, a few trackside “things” - but no room for anything else. This isn’t a layout in that sense - this is a play thing primarily for ME.
I love the size and am pleased with going with American Models and S-Helper Service for the loco’s, track and rolling stock. Transformer is from MRC - dual power AC.
Compare you ask [?] For the sheer joy of looking at it - this is fantastic stuff. I think HO is the best for realism across the board. But I’ve always thought S-gauge was the “right” size for model t
HooBoy - bring our brides to do the cooking and washing [?] Are you out of your mind, man [?] Perhaps it would be wiser to just put the twelve of us in a Budd observation dome car - like the V IA Rail Park cars. It would be a blast … but cooking and washing, you say [?] We’d have a dining car and of course changes of clothing provided to us along the way … fantasy world, here we come!
Better count again, Mate - three birthdays this month - count 'em again! Poor Nick he’ll be working for that bath tub gin money … [swg]
Ted You’re a piece of work, but one that we appreciate having 'round here. Here, take a hair of the dog … you seem to be in dire need my friend! [swg] Tom
Pool party with West Coast S [yeah] Is Boris waterproof? It was only 109 degrees in the shade this weekend! Leo didn’t take kindly to all the noise, of course he runs at the sight of his own shadow and cowards when he sees himself in the mirror. Tom… this is my third adventure in owning So Cal property and it ain’t getting cheaper by the year. I do plan to sell my LA property to offset the mortage as soon as the right number is offered. After that who can say? I just might retire early and spend my free time harassing the wife and persuing my hobbies.
For: West Coast S Dave
Water and Boris don’t mix - he’d sink like an anchor. However, should he bring his inflatables to the Party!, well I’m sure they’d help keep him afloat …[swg]
Boris ring the bell now - because I’m going [#offtopic] - drinks all around!
Real estate and home prices rank right up there on my list of things that annoy me very much:
(1) Warm Beer
(2) Wet toilet paper
(3) Home prices
In my varied experiences after retirement - I took two 4 week courses in real estate - one to get a state license for sales, and the second for the broker’s license. Why [?] Simply to learn as much as possible regarding why people seem to think that buying and selling homes MUST be handled by someone other than one’s self.
I never planned to use either of the licenses and wound up pretty much vindicated in my beliefs that one does not need to automatically award a percentage of the sales price to anyone for services rendered when those things surely can be done on one’s own. To each his own - I choose to not play the game.
No doubt that we’ve become very much accustomed to contracting out virtually everything that used to be done individually. I’ve seen mail boxes being replaced by a “service” that specializes in such things. There are very few lawns being cut by homeowners these days and I cannot recall ever seeing a homeowner actually painting his own home. About as rare as dial telephones - all of it.
So, when you talk of $500k homes, I’m actually surprised that there are even any at all in that range in an area described by you. We too have homes in that range - but those are top dollar, I can well imagine that in LA, they go much higher indeed. They surely were out of my price range back in the mid-80’s when I got transferred out there. Wound up on an unaccompanied tour - my final as it turned out - simply because the homes were o
My suspenders must’ve got caught on my stool. I’ll have another draft.
Ted, we in Kansas City are very supportive of our Chiefs. My wife wasn’t really a Chiefs fan let alone a football fan until she met me[:D][tup][yeah] Now the Royals on the other hand…well…it’s a very good thing they let the kids run the bases after home games. George Brett has his own restaurant/bar/grill at the Country Club Plaza next door to Arrowhead West (Chiefs memorabilia store).
For: Trainnut484 Russell
That’s a great line - suspenders caught on the stool! [swg]
I’ve called Missouri home since 1977 and maintained a home here even while assigned elsewhere. Been visiting KCity perhaps on an average of three times a year over that time. Love watching the Royals - don’t care about the record - a great baseball park. We used to be fans of the IHL Blades at Kemper Arena. Had lots of fun there … always have dinner at the Golden Ox before games. Now the UHL Outlaws are trying to keep hockey alive. Don’t know whether the fan base will handle it, quite frankly. Couldn’t keep the NHL Scouts …
Now, we’d love to see the Chiefs, but there’s just no way to get decent single game tickets. Great football town, no doubt about it. The drive between where I live and downtown is about 3 1/2 hours, obeying the speed limits of course. Don’t particularly like I-70.
I take the train out there at least twice a year by myself for turn around round trips. Been doing that for about 15 years too. KCity is a nice place to visit. Used to have a couple of friends with the KC PD - got some pretty good “scoop” on places to go, etc.
Okay, 'nuf of this … [#offtopic] again for me! Ring the bell, Boris and set 'em up.
Good evening again guys. OOps just missed Tom rats!Russell Thanks for the link I’m going to bookmark that for later perousal.I like the museum type links.It’s good to see what everyone else is doing.Ted So the bromo building is still there. I’ll have to look for it the next time I’m in Balt.I think I’ll stick with the gavisgone though works allot quicker and less likely to kill you.BTW I’d love to see picks of yoyur KC union as well,and of that homebuilt streetcar out in your garden as well.And you say Gunns and I are the building hero’s. Modelling is just as important. [tup] Westcoast Congrats on the house but wow, I could by 4 here for 500K. Sounds like socal allot like toronto real estatewise. You can’t get much that’s livable anyway in Toronto for under 350K and that would be at least a 50 yr old house without allot of property. Hearing the baseball stories makes me remember that my dad and I were at the game in Toronto when George Brett was thrown out for the pinetar homerun.That was 84 or 85 can’t remember now. Wow I’m way [#offtopic] Tonight. Think I’ll buy around and head out. The museum beckons tomorrow, I’m supposed to get some PCC training in.( got to keep up ones ticket ) As long as the rain holds off we should have a good day. So tom i’m willing it in your direction as I hate working outside in the rain. Later gents. Rob
Good mornin’ everybody, Boris how about two five minute eggs mounted on a toasted English, hash browns and a side of that delicious Canadian Bacon Rob brought from the Ontario Hinterlands.[^] Thanks, but no Florida O.J., “familiarity breeds contempt.” Tom and Russell, it looks like we three definately agree on K.C. and its’ environs from the Stadium to the Golden Ox. The Country Club Plaza is always a “Hit” during Christmas season. I used to ride the Country Club street car from 39th St. and Main to the Plaza and remember the wonderful aroma by the Wish Bone bistro.[tup]
Well, the pressure is on for me to get off my "rusty, dusty " and send some pix of my humble efforts. I still haven’t sprung for a digital camera but I suppose there is no way out, any suggestions?[bow] Every time I get the urge, I think of what the money could purchase in rolling stock.[:-^] Russ and Rob don’t expect too much from my K.C. Union Station. It is a “Front” only as I haven’t the space for the entire structure. The grand concourse, by necessity, projects from the front of the bldg. and on a lower level than the prototype. It may take a while to “get it together” but at least now pix are on the “front burner.”[:D] The Interurban (Radial) G gauge (1:30), still needs a trolley pole which I’ll get to a.s.a.p.! Hey, you young “whippersnappers” are rattling these old bones.[(-D] Its okay, after yesterday I know “its later than I think it is.”[:I]
Any input on the digital camera and the proper color for the Santa Fe Palace Car (circa 1890) will be gratefully appreciated. Meanwhile Rob, here is a Web site I stumbled into via Google: North American Vintage Trolley Association. You probably know about it but “just in case.” Also, www.tecolinestreetcar.org for local Tampa street car info. (double truck Birney clones).
OHH Gad Boris, where did you have these eggs vulcanized?[banghead] Never mind, I have work to do before the tropical Sun turns me into a ra
Now, for a digital camera, it depends on how much you want to spend. You can get a great 3 to 5 megapixel digital camera in the $200-$400 range. Almost all digital cameras come with a memory card and batteries, but the memory card can only hold about 10-15 pictures, and the batteries only last so long since digital cameras eat alot of batteries. I recommend getting rechargeable batteries and a memory card that can hold about 40-80 pictures. Those will add an extra $100 or so depending on the memory card, but well worth it in the long run in terms of saving a ton of money in batteries and film. Also, most digital cameras come with USB cables for downloading pictures from camera to computer, and cables to hook directly to tv to instantly view pictures. Walmart and one hour photo places can develop your digial prints. Canon and Nikon make great digtial cameras. Sonys are ok, but they have their own memory cards and are sometimes not available where convenient.
I think all that’s good to get you started. I don’t want to overload you with too much info.
Mid week already! Hump Day as we used to refer to the mid-point of nearly everything in the service. [tup]
Check out the bakery goods from The Mentor Village Bakery along with our light breakfast fare and fresh coffee (leaded & unleaded). [swg]
By the by, I really appreciate the response to the Birthday Watch List! [tup][tup]
The SUMMARY awaits …… with limited comments from me along with few smilies/graphics and photos………… Busy day yesterday! [swg]
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QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 05 July 2005, 10:09:00
Morning all, Coffee and Danish,
Trollyboy the trucks are on a section of “panel” track next to the Locomotive, but they are Big, 11 tons each, what I am attempting to do is build a portable boring machine to clean up the pivot points between the side frames of the Buckeye trucks. We will build a parallel out of 3 inch angle iron and place it parallel and above to the hole to be machined, after aligning the parallel we will secure it to the frame as ridgedly as possable. Then we will put a support rod< <probably a chunk of 3 inch cold rolled I have sitting around> that will hold the brackets that support the boring bar. the boring bar will be driven by a roll motor and we will pu***he bar through the pivot hole. The Frame will have to be aligned using our car jacks so as to have all the bearing surfaces properly aligned to each other. On advice from the guys at the “home Machinist” site http://www.chaski.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?Cat=&C=1 I am scrapping the drill press idea in favor of a simpler approach.
Ted I like the site too but no one said “what cars they wanted on the train” , maybe the dance club car?
Good morning all again. Barkeep, I’ll take a cup of coffee. I’ll take it easy on Boris lol [:D]
I’m going [#offtopic] again. Shee***hat sounds like the bell for Lurch or a foghorn with a bad cold
For Tom,
I don’t know how many megapixels your camera is, but 350 pictures with room to spare on one 128 card is stretching it some, unless you lowered the resolution on your camera to 1 megapixel or you do have a 1 megapixel camera. 1 Gigabyte cards can hold 350+ pictures depending on the resolution (megapixels) on a digital camera.
Not only are Walmart and 1 hour photo places are cheaper, but printing at least 200 pictures on a digital printer would take about two or three hours, and a couple of ink cartridges.
No thanks on the refill. One more cup of coffee and I’ll burst LOL
Camera is Sony DSC-S75 3.3 Megapixel and my image size is 1280 x 960. This isn’t the first time I’ve exceeded 350 photo’s on those sticks.
Also, my digital printer does not use ink cartridges … everything needed is included in with the paper pack. I set it up to run - go away and do what I want, and the pix are ready for me. No sweat. It’s just a matter of preference - to each his own, right [?]
Okay - now, let’s move on to the subject around here - which is Classic Trains - real or model will do fine, Gents! [tup] I can’t afford too many more freebies … [;)]
If you spell me awhile i’d like to weigh in on Ted’s request, I have a Pullman paint guide from around 1900 that should clear up the matter as to color. The Palace cars assumed legendary status far in excess of the actual number built.
A short history of the palace Pullman Car:
Practically all were hand built to customer’s specifications and configurations, open/closed vestibules,typically in the 80-85 foot over couplers with one example being 92 feet, finished and furnished to the customers requirement. The Pallace Cars were a victim of changing times in American railroading and made obsolete by 1900 due to evolving safety requirements and cost to build, maintain and operate , their wooden frames/sills and Allen Patent Paper Rivited Wheels assured a short life as the carbuilders switched over to steel.
The palace would be found only on a few select railroads Most roads loathed operating them as they were giants of the rails during a time when 60 foot cars were considered standard.
To my knowledge none survived for future preservation, but I could be wrong if a series of slides I shot 1978 in Colorado prove otherwise. I don’t know the history of the car I located being used as a residence or if it still exist. But, without a doubt it had Allen Paper Wheels and rivited trucks. Gives one pause to consider perhaps one did transcend time .
Speaking of finds, a number of years a hilltop lot was sold in the San Fernando Valley, the house was in utter ruin, no problem as the new owners planned to clear the property. After clearing heavy brush, lo and behold the outbuilding turned out to be a de-trucked SP 60 foor Harriman RPO in fair condition.
The owners took out an ad in the LA Times seeking the services of someone who could remove it. A informal group of preservationist I associate with made contact with the owner with the idea of recording its history, we have no means to remove the owner