Just got my test/programming track wired and the PowerCab connected. As soon as I place my 1st engine on the track it comes alive with the engine idling sounds. Horn, bell and lights seem to turn on and off.
So I go through the steps in the PowerCab Manual to do a basic program set up on this engine and now I get NO ENGINE sounds at all. Engine runs, horn and bell work and 2 of the 4 lights work. Where did the engine sounds go?
Also, when to turn on power to your layout how do you “start” the engines idling?
Try pressing F8 to get engine sounds. Some sound decoders come with the sound engaging at startup; others require you to press F8 to start the engine sounds. If that feature is important to you, there are CVs that you can adjust to make that happen.
You’ll need to look at your sound decoder’s manual to determine how to activate the other two lights. Are they ditch lights? What locomotive are you programming?
Depends. All Bachmann sound value engines immediately start sound, and that cannot be changed. What engine and decoder is it? What lights don’t work?
Basic programming doesn’t involve doing anything to sounds.
Normally F8 starts the engine sounds.
At least for me, ocassionally weird things just happen with DCC. An engine that ran just fine, doesn’t run the next operating session. A horn stops working or the lights stop working or the engine doesn’t go faster than a crawl. Resetting the decoder solves that 100% of them time.
The Power Cab has a Recovery Program that claims to reset all decoders. The people I trust in this forum, say this has unpredictable effects on non-NCE decoders. Most decoders can be rebooted by setting CV 8 to =8. But sometimes it’s CV 30.
My era is pre ditch lights, so I can’t help you with that, but it ought to be in the manual that came with your engine.
The other trick to programming is that you have to turn the power off and on to get all the changes to take.
What I saw missing was the brand of sound decdoder he is using.
I bought the Power Cab some years ago and it has the upgrade IC. I have programmed Tsunami and LokSound plus one Bachmann with sound on board. They all work fine after programming.
Also an Atlas GP40 with factory sound and it works fine.
I’m trying to program 2 ScaleTrains, GE Tier 4 GEVO and a EMD SD40-2.
On the GEVO the ditch lights (the lower 2 in front) don’t come on.
On the SD40 the ditch lights don’t come on AND the engine run backwards! When PowerCab is set to FWD, the engine with run in reverse. When swwitched to REV the engine will run forward.
Also the PowerCab will only remember the last cab entered. It will not switch to the ather engine when I press RECALL. It saya I should be able to toggle between the engines I have programmed.
I checked the ScaleTrains website and both of those locomotive come with ESU Loksound decoders. Do you have the Operator or the Rivet Counter version? It looks like the latter comes with the Select V4.0 sound decoder and the former, the “Essential sound & DCC decoder”. (Not sure what that is exactly…Maybe a slimmed down Select?)
I would download the Loksound 4.0 manual for setting up the ditch lights. It’s possible that they are already set up; you just need to know which F-button to press to activate them.
The issue with your backwards running SD40 is an easy fix. All you have to do is to read the value for CV29 in Programming Track mode and increase it by one. For example, if CV29 reads “6”; change the value to “7”. If CV29 reads “34”; change it to “35”. If the value is an odd number, however, decrease it by one. Does that make sense?
The default recall stack for your Power Cab is 2 but it can set from 2-6 addresses. With one locomotive address listed on your Power Cab’s LCD screen , press the SELECT LOCO button then the address of your other locomotive. Both address should then be in your recall stack and your RECALL button should toggle between the two. If not, then you will need to check to see what the recall stack value is on your Power Cab.
It was merely informational and a confirmation that the Power Cab can toggle between two (and up to 6, total) locomotive addresses. I believe I attempted to address how to add the 2nd address to the recall stack. Unfortunately, I neglected to mention pressing the RECALL button to select the other slot before pressing SELECT LOCO. Thanks, Greg!
Tom I wasn’t being hypercritical. Everyone, including me, feels compeled to tell what they know or what they feel is additive to what is being discussed.
The OP doesn’t need to explore more options until he figures out what is going on now.
Randy Rinker advises doing a full factory reset of all new decoders as a matter of cheap insurance against glitches that may confound the initial setup.
Depending on the numerical value of the address you are attempting to programme into the decoder, you should consider also the numerical value programmed into CV29 at the same time. It’s a very important CV that imparts directionality to the way the locomotive moves in ‘forward’, but also both lights control and dual voltage sensitivity (modern decoders respond to both DC voltage, if that’s all you supply it, and to DCC current).
Also, if the DCC system doesn’t automatically remove track power and then restore it after a brief interval, or prompt YOU to remove, and then to restore, track power, the decoder won’t be reset. It will only respond once again when you have Add “03” on your throttle.
Not a bad idea. Also removes any chance that perhaps the wrong button was pressed when trying to program. Once reset, the loco should run on address 3, and all functions should work. If you get that far - THEN try to set an address. Change nothing else. The PowerCab menu steps through selecting an address and setting it up. If it runs on the new address - try the second loco, same process. Remember to take the first one off the track - the powercab does not have a dedicated program track so any loco left on the rails will get programmed. There are ways to avoid that, but save that for later, stick with simple. Once you have both locos operating on an address you want (most people use the cab number), then we can look into other settings, both for the decoder and the PowerCab.
Well I spent the day trying to figure out this programing for my SD40-2 and 4 GEVO. Got the SD40-2 to finally run forward and reverse. Lots of trial and error trying to figure out my NCE PowerCab. Mostly error. Got all lights to work somehow. But now the BELL button does not ring the bell on either engine. It does work with the #1 button.
Biggest problem is I can’t get my PowerCab to switch between the two engines. RECALL does not work. It only remember the last cab entered. I have to manually enter each engine’s number to get control.
The NCE PowerCab manual is a nighmare to try and understand. And I can’t find how to set the SHORT address. It never comes up. Only the LONG address. Very confussing. Wish there was a good tutorail video that “shows” you how to program it.
And on power up I now get the voltage reading instead of the time and I have to manually go in and change that everytime. ???
basically, don;t use short addresses with NCE. Short addresses overlap the consist address range, and since the NCE consisting takes care of coming up with a consist number so you don’t have to figure thatout, there’s always a chance it could conflict with a user-assigned short address. NCE allows the entire DCC address range to be used as long addresses, so if the cab number of your loco is, say 40, just make it long address 40 and it will work fine with your NCE system. It won’t work if you take it to a layout using any of the other popular DCC systems though.
As far as I can remember, I’ve never seen the voltage current displayed. There is a setting to see that. Was this a Power Cab that was purchased new or used?
How are you programing, on the main or programming track?
I see Randy has suggested not to use short address, but it still should come up as an option, using either mode.
Recall be can adjusted. If it is 1, it only remembers one loco. With your problems with showing voltage current, and recall, it might be easier to do a system reset on the powercab, described on page 59 of the Manual ver 1.65
Maybe if you walks us through the steps in how you are programming the address and what you are seeing, we can see if there is something you are doing wrong.