More. The Tremont Yard is emopty when photographed during rush hout:
Probably at 84th
Probably between Tremont and Forfham, from rear platform going north:
From Joe Franks, via Jack May, looking northwest. from within Bronx Park. and MUDC (multiple-unit-door-control, rebuilt gate-car) approaching the Elevated’s Bronx Park branch terminal:
Another Joe Franks picture, looking east at the Elevated’s Fordham Road Starion. The Third Avenue Transit sweeper and relocated ex-Manhattan Streetcar are both on one of the two stub tracks that remain from the long-gone 3rd Avenue Bronx streetcar line, not on the Fordham Road tracks used by the X 207-Fordham Crsstown, and C Bronx and Van Courtland Park regular cars. Others assumed that the train of composites on the Elevated’s center track is a Through Express from 241 St. to City Hall, but both morning and evening Through Expresses operated on the local track of the correct direction, since they made all stops north of Tremont Avenue. Instead, it is morning Through Express equipment running light returning from City Hall to its regular lay-up location on the center track between Fordham Road and Gun Hill Road:
Hello Dave !
You may remember me from the E.R.A. in the 1960’s-70’s – and from my traction magazine wiritngs in the 1980’s-90’s. I grew up and lived along the Manhattan 3rd Ave EL and rode and photographed it a lot until the Manhattan part was closed and torn down between Aug and Dec. 1955 – and I covered the Bronx line even more extensively. I lived next to the uptown E.84th Street local station. I scratch-built modeled the old era NY City EL’s in both HO (1964 thru 1983) and later O Scale (1984 to present) . I have been reading your comments here for years and decided to finally join up. Have enjoyed your photos and memories of the EL and trolleys in NY City. I model both Brooklyn (BRT & B&QT) & T.A.R.S / Steinway Lines Trolleys. Also BMT, IND and IRT Steel pre and post war subway cars and BMT Wooden EL Cars. Here are a few photos of just a few of my IRT Wooden El cars from my Layout Photo website; 
Well, if you want to see more – click my FLICKR Albums link . Regards - Joe F !
Hello Again Dave !
I sent you a previous reply message here but it has now shown up on this thread 24 hours after I posted it ! Perhaps this will. Regards - Joe Frank
(Quoted by Dave Klepper - “Probably at 84th”)
Yes Dave, that IS the E. 84th Street Local Station, view looking north. It was my own HOME stop on the 3rd Ave EL. Countless times I stood on that uptown platform at that same spot at its north end by the coal box! Waiting for a train ! The UPTOWN East 84th Street local Station - I lived a few feet east of the Uptown Station House of this platform. A downtown local is seen approaching the S/B 84th St. station and we seen the rear car of an early evening uptown express which passed thru. The building at left (a Walter B. Cooke funeral home a few years later) still stands today - and the building at the right edge (next to the coal boax) still remains Most all the other buildings were replaced over the past 40 years by very high rise luxury very expensive apartment houses. In distance is seen the E.89th Street local station. I emailed you a photo taken in 1879 after the EL open --looking north from the same platform — but before that platform was later, by 1912, extended one car length north of, past, where it originally ended in 1878 at the end of its platform canopy roof. A southbound local is about to cross E. 85th street.
I emailed you another photo looking north from the south end of the downtown platform in 1954, with a downtown train approaching and an uptown local departing at right. I saw this scene countless times when I was on the EL there !
And you remember those quite numerous original 1878 built unique Victorian era stairways and rounded handrails at corners – see photo I emailed you in a view down to the sidestreet at a Local Station
Well, Dave, you and I were there back then and are among the fewer people remaining who a
Terrific to hear from you after all these years! Wonderful models. Do you observe the difference between elevated 3rd-rail and subway third rail in O-gauge? With the protection board for the latter? Terribly difficult in HO but might be achievable in O.
One beautiful and otherwise realistic photo cried out for some e,lectronic-darkroom work, so herewith.
Your Flikr file does not work for me. Just family pictures.
Have you posted on the Model RR magazine forum. Track layout?
here is the URL that works foe me, and is worth the effort:
http://www.wtv-zone.com/NYCityModelTransitSystem/NYCityModelTransit/index.html
Why didn’t you post it to begin with?
Hello Dave !
Thanks for the reply!..
I posted a copy of my photo to compare with the identical one you stated (and included) above that you did some electronic darkroom work on – but I cannot see or notice any difference between the photos . See MY original photo below;
!https://live.staticflickr.com/7481/16085006935_23b198db76_o.jpg
What “improvements” were accomplished on your end ?!
My FLICKR photos webpages work properly for everyone on the net and have so for over a decade now. – and there are NO family photos on any of my Flickr Photo site accounts. And they are easily found on Google search. I don’t know what happened when you opened the Flickr Link I provided. Here is the / my MAIN (photostream) FLICKR SITE and on it at its top menu link you can access the ALBUMS, FAVORITES, and etc,. of photos. LINK HERE:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/44268069@N00/page1
The WTV Zone (a private hosting site) Layout photos webpages site I built, created myself, totally from scratch (from blank page space) using solely HTML code writeup to build and create what is seen on its pages. Its sort of a “coffee table book” type site with a lot more historic and detail info for the models vs: prototypes.
As for the modeled 3rd rail on my O-Scale “EL” layout, I modeled IRT “Manhattan Railway” EL STYLE 3rd rail higher and closer to track, but I DID NOT install the usual wooden higher safety “backboard” which was used ONLY on the Manhattan portions of the original Manhattan Railway Co. 2nd, 3rd, 6th & 9th Ave. EL’s.
HOWEVER, on the Bronx 3rd Ave EL segment (prior to 1957) and Bronx extension of the 9th Ave EL line (and after 6-1940, then the Polo Ground Shuttle) where it connected at 162nd St. & River Ave to the IRT Jerome Ave.
You are a terrific modeler. If you do not post your pictures on the Model Railroader Forum, I’d like to do so and suggest a visit to your layout website.
Compring your model pictures with those of the prototype shows how truly great your work is.
All I did with electronic-darkroom waork was remove the tilt, while keeping all important data. Look again.
The new link you posted works fine for me, and i could spend several days just looking at the photos. and two fune layouts, one ho and one O. with all those models and all that scenery, when do you have time to eat and sleep? Let alone earn money?
Hello Dave
I NOW saw the slight “tilt fix” in your “enhanced version” of my photo ! – I can do that on my editing program also. Looks like it created a bit more “sky” space also.
Thanks for the supportive nice comments…its been a labor of love. I had No TV and NO Internet back in those days — so with my two working careers, with always a girlfriend in my life most times, and just taking care of home and life (batchelor) – most of my spare time was doing the modeling. I multi tasked – never wasted a second of modeling time — while paint on one model is setting, I work on another model, and when glue on that is setting, I work on another project. And then return to the originals. Back and forth to completion
I have about 800,000 Color & B&W transit photos (most in route-line order or system albums) and about 550,000 color slides…all cataloged by line and system and organized. And about 90K images on my computer.
Here is a photo site I did on Facebook a few years ago - my photos and color slides of the Bronx 3rd Ave EL mainly (and a few collected via being traded with copies of mine, long ago back in the day with my pals) - From 1954 onward.
It’s called “The Late Great Bronx 3rd Ave EL” . I am sure you will enjoy it and recognize it all. Here is its link – look for and click PHOTOS in the menu left column and on that page, see & click ALBUMS. I did each EL Station in its own album from 149th St. to E.171st Street – and then recently I departed FB before I completed it up to Gun Hill Rd… so it ends there. LINK HERE:
https://www.facebook.com/The-Late-Great-BRONX-3rd-Avenue-El-408052719793796/?modal=admin_todo_tour
I am going to re-create it - and to completion - over on a new FLICKR SITE. In Albums format for each s
NOTE: I removed the accidentally installed duplicate posting here, of what is seen (my first posting) above !! Sorry for the duplicate posting - don’t know what happened to cause that ! !
I guess the readers here don’t appreciate really scale detailed transit modeling – except Dave Klepper !
Joe F
I rode a gate-car local train on the Third Avenue elevated line in Manhattan in August 1949 when I was on my first visit to New York. I could see the express track rising up alongside us through the car windows. It was the first time I found out about the upper-level arrangement for express trains. It must have been during rush hour, because the train was crowded and my sister and I had a little trouble getting through the gate to get off.
A very very rare rush-hour exception, possibly because a more-than-average number of MUDCs were in for repair and/or maintenace at 99th Street Shops.
If the train was only five cars long, the reason above would apply, and the origine going north was probably South Ferry, with the niorthern destination 129th Street or Tremont Avenue.
If the train was seven-cars long, originated at City Hall, and had any Bronx northern destination, Tremont Avenue, Fordham Road, Bronx Park, Gun Hill Road, or 241st Street- White Plains Road, it was Through Exoress euipment that had been diverted to provide local service to fill a gap. porobably because of some disruption on the South Ferry branch.
transferred from the Brooklyn Elevateds thread, following Joe Frank’s correction.
Looking west from 86th Street & 2nd Avenue, 1947 or 1948.
Hello Dave
Well, as you can see - via the private email I sent to you - with the 2021 image of the same location on E. 86th Street – nothing is remaining as seen in your 1946 B&W photo — except the corner building at left at the SW corner 2nd Ave & E. 86th Street. All others west to 3rd Ave. – and somewhat west to Lex. Ave., replaced by Hi-Rise buildings. The old neighborhood is decades long gone from the Multi-European based communiuty it was long ago. It was a basic big waste of my time and effort to try to put the modern photo here for you to see on this message at this site – it would continually not show up. Regards - Joe F