Has anybody seen evolution engine bulit by GE on class 1 railroads?
yeah, I have seen several go through Rochelle, Illinois on the BNSF. They look pretty much the same as the AC4400. The only reason I could tell the difference was that they were brand spanking new and they had that new swoosh paint job. Looked pretty good. And they had the GEVO markings on the side up by the cab.
The GEVO has a bigger radiator section and also has a second set of fans in it. They also have 2 smaller stacks instead of one large stack.
the 6000 hp unit has two stacks (twin turbos). The ES44 DC and the ES44 AC have a single stack. The cooling system is also different from the AC4400/Dash 9. The GEvo has a split cooling system and if I remember correctly, the air cond. unit resides in a different place. The prime mover looks very similar to the 6000 hp unit minus 4 cylinders and a turbo. The cab is very similar, but, from there back there are alot of differences.
I am not aware of the GEVO coming in the 6000hp range yet. All the 6000hp engines out there of of the older technology.
The GEVO engine is actually based off the AC6000 engine just they cut off 4 cylinders
They don’t make a 6000 hp GEvo. What I was referring to is the prime mover. The 6000 hp prime mover as I said is very similar to the 4400 hp unit with the exception of twin turbos and 4 more cylinders. I quote this fron the Diesel Spotters Guide and various sources on the net…oh, wait, I was thinking of somebody else. I’m sorry. Where I get my info is from actually spending more than a few hours on these units and popping the carbody doors and taking a looksie. No, I am not a foamer, I was just looking for a suitable place to heat up my lunch.
That is correct, the GEVO uses a 12-cylinder version of the 16-cyl 6000 HP HDL engine.
And yes I’ve seen them, UP runs them down the Phoenix Line frequently.
Used one a few months ago…
Here is a link to that one on it’s first revenue move…
http://leonard.tamu.edu/Trains/NewBNSF/PTRA.htm
It came in as part of a consist, dead in tow, and we started it up, took it to the city docks, and coupled up the train…
Not a bad engine, dosnt load up to fast though…but had that “New Locomotive Smell” working!
Ed
Pretty fancy place there Ed. Curbs and gutters along the tracks.
Farmer…
Thats a tie up track, the curbs and gutters are part of a EPA required fiberglass track pan/ catch pan to contain fuel spills and and fluid leaks…there is a big drain under it that goes to a sump/collection pit at our fuel rack.
On occasion, we can fuel motors there, if the rack is full already.
You can see my locomotives on the switching lead behind(or to the right) of the BNSF, we usually park our MU where the GEVO is.
Although I wouldnt mind a concrete walkway, those rocks are pretty hard on your feet after a few hours!
Ed
For the record folks, there are some Gevo units (I have seen them) without the new swoosh paint scheme and still in the older H2 scheme. My guess is BNSF still had quite a few of the old (and very expensive) decal sets to use up.
I’ve seen photos of CN’s new ES44DC’s, and I’m pretty sure I saw one the other day on the TO-PQ line. I wasn’t close enough to see if it had the red nose class lights which distinguish it from CN’s dash 9’s (among many other things!)
I have noticed the Gevo units have a slight bulge on the roof line just in front of the radiator fins as well.
Yup, that is one of the main ways to distingui***hem.
Ive seen the CP ones about 3 times.
Alec
I am not aware of the GEVO coming in the 6000hp range yet. All the 6000hp engines out there of of the older technology.
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They don’t make a 6000 hp GEvo. What I was referring to is the prime mover. The 6000 hp prime mover as I said is very similar to the 4400 hp unit with the exception of twin turbos and 4 more cylinders. I quote this fron the Diesel Spotters Guide and various sources on the net…oh, wait, I was thinking of somebody else. I’m sorry. Where I get my info is from actually spending more than a few hours on these units and popping the carbody doors and taking a looksie. No, I am not a foamer, I was just looking for a suitable place to heat up my lunch.
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GE is developing a 16 cylinder 6,000 HP version of the GEVO engine for a new locomotive being designed for China. There was a mention of it on this site a few months ago when the order was announced. I realize that that isn’t relevant to the loco spotting question…
I have seen the UP, BNSF and NS. Gevo units. One train I saw heading east out of Longview, TX had this line up. UP SD70ACe, NS ES40DC, NS SD70M-2, and UP C45ACCTE (ES44AC in GE terms). I couldn’t drive fast enouhg to get a head of and and get a shot.
The RR’s think they have it tough when it comes to meeting emisson standards. Try the OTR trucking indusrty they are now having to mount catylictic converters on to semis to meet emissons. Can you imagine a converter big enough for a locomotive they should count their blessings that they do not have to meet the same standards as trucking companies.
CSX GEVO’s ES44DC’s are found almost all the time… their horns (K5L) have a low tone Blat to them whitch is how I can tell if it’s a GEVO.