What Color Schemes Of Early 1970's C.&O. And S.F. Cabooses?

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Hello,

Please, I would appreciate any help, regarding the early 1970’s cabooses’ color schemes of the C.&O. and the Santa Fe railroads.

Thank You,

Ralph

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Just did a quickie “Google” for C&O Caboose and there are a bunch of responses similar to this one; http://www.wvrailmuseum.com/co-cab-3260.html .

Granted this is in really bad shape but based on the design I would compare what you see with what is on the Atlas “O” site for color standards. This will probably ruffle some feathers but I personally believe that Atlas is the most accurate of the train makers.

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Dear Sir,

I thank you for all of yor info.,photos. and time.

I guess, I did not look on the correct web. site?

Take Care,

Ralph

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In the 70’s wasn’t C&O operating under “Chessie System” with C&O, B&O, or WM markings. The main caboose’s I remember seeing were bay window or wide vision cupola’s. Yellow main paint with blue Chessie system markings and vermillion accent stripes. To be honest, this is my second favorite railroad color/paint scheme, second only to the original SantaFe Warbonnet.

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chuck,

Thank you for your reply.

I want to get a caboose which would go with my Lionel #6-8142 ‘Mighty Sound Of Steam’ steam loco. and ‘clear view’ type tender.

This was a Lionel two piece item in the early '70’s, which I have ,but never bought that period cab.

‘Graham’s Trains Products’, web. page, shows an early '70’s Lionel #6-1184 ‘Allegheny Steam Freight Set’ with a loco. and tender, same as mine, but also having a transformer, track, etc., three freight cars, and a yellow body cab. with the vermillon stripe along the bottom and blue markings, on the sides, which read ‘C and O For Progress’ and the cab was a S.P.RR. C-40-1 type.

What confusses me is, the cab. I’ve described and what you and doughdagrump have mentioned are all somewhat different from one another, but I’m grateful for the info., as I haven’t gootten far with my web. site searches.

Now I have a clearer idea of what to get.

Thank You,

Ralph

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As well as I can remember Chessie used all the old equipt. they acquired from the other lines until it wore out . So really alot of of colors/types were in use for awhile . The biggest mistake I made here was letting my wife talk me out of buying a " REAL " caboose … sold locally and delivered by a local company with a crane and sit her in my yard . Cram … it costs more to build a lousey shed to code now than I would have had in a couple of them . [:slight_smile:] . And if anyone really set and watched freight trains go by everyday like I did at my granddads … they were’nt all the same line of cars as some seem to try to put together now . I mean if you really want reality as it really was … mix em up ! Here’s a link I find extremely valuable … it has 30,000 pictures and bucu info on just what you’re asking … http://www.northeast.railfan.net/ and this one http://www.steamfreightcars.com/gallery/caboose/caboosemain.html

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Looks like your steamer was in a set with the C & O 9064 offset cupola caboose (yellow with red side-sill stripe). This caboose would be appropriate for 70’s era, but not for steam era. C&O rostered red cabooses during that period. In the late 60’s, C&O started painting their cabins blue for pool service, and yellow was very prevalent in the 70’s before and during Chessie.

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I agree with Ole Timer.C&O locos and cabooses were a mixture of component railroads.

I don’t remember extended vision style cabooses in the early 1970s.

The C&O ran 50’ from our front door.

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fifedog,

My loco. & tender is Lionel #6-8142 " Mighty Sound Of Steam" early 1970’s, just the two units, not part of Lionel C&O #9064, (probably Lionel C&O #6-9064).

I saw on the web.site an early 1970’s Lionel #6-1184 “Allegheny Steam Freight” set which has, the same motive power as mine with steam sound, but also box, flat, gondola ( three red canisters) and hopper–cars, a transformer, track, wires and all in a large packing box.

Thanks You,

Ralph

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rogruth,

I thank you for your help and I now have more info. to work with.

Ralph

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You may have misunderstood me, Ralphie, C&O caboose 9064 came with the set your engine did.

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fifedog,

I’m sorry, I thought there was a particular set #6-9064.

Caboose #9064 may have been in the set #6-1184 “Allegheny Steam Freight”, I don’t know for sure.

My loco. and tender was only a two piece, boxed set #6-8142 “Mighty Sound Of Steam” in the early 1970’s and whatever the caboose that went with this engine was, at that time, I never bought, but now I want that caboose, which might be too late.

You did say that during the steam era C&O had red hacks, and now I know what to look for, as Lionel now sells two C&O cabooses with red bodies, black roofs and white markings, one is an Eastern railroad center cupola type and the other is a bay window type.

Thank You,

Ralph

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For those interested in a great source for info on cabooses, there is a series of paperback books titled CABINS, CRUMMIES & HACKS (H&M Productions/GRIT Printing). The series is broken down by region, with hundreds of color photos. The C&O is included in VOL 2:The South.

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fifedog,

Thank You,

I will look for those books at my local hobby shops.

Ralph