Just saw a very nice photo of Milwaukee Road #35. Either an E8 or E9. The surprise for me was that it’s this year. [:D][:p]
Anyone have info on this unit? Who owns it? Does it run? If so, is it used in excursion service? [8)]
Just feels good to know that at least there are quite a few E-8s and 9s left in existence. Call me “warped” but this is sort of a consolation to me as there is only one of my “top favorite” Es left. That’s the E7 in the Strasburg museum.
Thanks![:)][:D][8D][;)][:)][tup]
Antonio, is there any way you can show us the picture? I think the Illinois Railway Museum has some E’s. Zephyr I believe.
I think it is an E8 used on the Spirit of Washington dinner train in Washington State, formerly MARC 81 or 83, Can’t remember. Originally BN. MARC still uses an F9, also former BN. and don’t forget the UP E8s, authough they are technically Geeps disguised as Es.
The stainless steel E-unit at the Illinois Railway Museum at Union, IL, is an E-5. It is on the point of their (at one time I could say our and maybe I’ll have the wherewithal to say it again) Nebraska Zephyr articulated '30’s Budd streamliner. The E-5 and E-6 were identacle mechanically and electrically, and the only difference was the far greater use of stainless steel and some fluting on the E-5. Were there any E-5’s other than those built for the CB&Q? In terms of stainless, I think the Rock Island’s E’s came closest, but I always heard them referred to as E-6’s. The Burlington’s E-7’s were regular E-7’s with silver paint. Dave Klepper
Go to www.RailPictures.net
On the “Key Word” category type in 35A. Hit the search button and you will see her. Looks great! I think this is the paint scheme Milwaukee Road used when they were running service in conjunction with Union Pacific.
E3, E4, E5 and E6 were all basically identical under the sheet metal with perhaps only minor differences among them. CB&Q and its subsidiaries (C&S, FW&D) were the only owners of E5’s (11 cabs, 5 boosters).
CN has two (I think) E8’s in executive service, painted in CN olive and gold. They inheirited them in the IC merger.
Central NY RHS has 2 E8A’s, both running and doing the occasional excursion.
Serial 16787 Built November 1952 as PRR #5761A - Now lettered as DL&W 807
Serial 16771 Built September 1952 as PRR #5702A - Now lettered as DL&W 808
Hay AntonioFP45 - that’s a good web site. [:)] [tup]
Your comment about Milwaukee Road running in UP colours - I raised that as a separate thread enquiry and I got some very good answers explaining why MR did that. You might find it interesting.
Cheers [:)]
Dave (Kozzie)
Kozzie — technical nit pick – not MR, MILW. MR is the McCloud River Railroad. In the last few years, the Railroad became Railway and the reporting marks changed to MCR.
No worries kenneo! [:)] That will help me make more sense of the details in the posts…heh heh…[:)] now I can ask…heh heh…[:)]. …McCloud River Railroad…I haven’t heard of that one before. Up your way in Oregon? Did it get swallowed or still running as a regional/shortline/…???
Cheers [;)]
Dave
(Kozzie)
Kozzie,
I read your thread about MILW & UP schemes. It was a good one, thanks! [;)]
Kozzie & M636C [4:-)][4:-)]
Are E-units (o.k, you call them “A” series) still running in Austrailia? I don’t mean the ones that resemble the SDP40fs called A-16s. A few years back I saw a color picture of a unit that looked almost exactly like an E-8. The picture was in a book dated in the 1980s. What really stood out was that the horns were mounted on top of the nose, which I thought looked strange but I guess practical for mechanics.
Cheers to you! [:D][8D][:)][swg][tup]
Kozzie,
The Mc Cloud River Railway,(now Mc Cloud Railway) is in northern California. It runs from a connection with the SP Shasta Route(I refuse to recognize the merger with that "other"railroad.)at Mt.Shasta City.It is just south of Mount Shasta. It is still operating as a shortline,and runs excursions,a dinner train,and steam trips![:)]I rode the line in 1996,and it is very scenic.[:D]
Thanks espeefoamer [:)] [:)]
Does the MR run any freight at all?
Looks like I’ll have to get a decent map/maps of the continetnal 48, then I can track Forum Folk’s descriptions on the map .
Hmmmmm…Mt Shasta is outside my limited US geography. Is it, say, east of San Francisco???
Dave
(Kozzie)
Hey Peter (M636C) [:)]
Can you help us with Antonio’s question about E units in Oz?
Dave
(Kozzie)
I like the picture, thats for sure
Ah yes, the 35A!!! Unfortunately, this one’s parked, and maybe “stuffed and mounted” too… This is a display piece in Madison, Wisconsin, near the University of Wisconsin’s Kohl Center (athletic center, I believe).
I think that this one IS the old Milwaukee Road 35A, unlike the C&NW Fairbanks-Morse switcher to the southeast, in Milton Junction, that never was a C&NW locomotive!!!
-Mark Hintz
Milwaukee, WI
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Sorry, fuzzy, IIRC, the 35A is actually an ex-Pennsy unit. I recall a picture in TRAINS a few years back with the Scenic Rail Dining train parked next to it, and the caption asked which was the real Milw. engine(the SRD unit)[8D]
trainheartedguy…the UP Es are E9s that are GP38-2 on the inside.
Antonio,
There are two main groups of these still running;
Double end units, with a bulldog nose on each end - model AA16C (called ML2 at first)
There were 26 of these numbered B60 to B85, all with the Victorian Railways, 5’3" gauge.
B61, B65 and B80 were all working for West Coast Railway, basically a commuter line running south west of Melbourne. B61 works the commuter trains, B65 is leased to Freight Australia for grain traffic, B80 is painted in a version of UP colours for a tourist service that never started, and was on standard gauge freight service until some contactors failed. It is expected to be back in service soon.
There is also B74, with a museum at Seymour, north of Melbourne. It spends a lot of time in Freight service on lease, but is in its original EMD blue and yellow, like a cross between Erie and Santa Fe Freight schemes.
Eleven units were rebuilt as AAT-22CR (a sort of SD39-2 in a double end cab body), six now work commuter trains (in red and blue) and five work broad gauge freight, in green and yellow.
There were a lot more single end units, but not as large a proportion survive,(although there are quite a few still about.
There were 11 single end A1A-A1A units, Commonwealth Railways GM1 to GM11. these were 1500HP with 16-567B engines (like the double end units).
GM1 and GM3 are restored to original appearance in maroon and silver, looking like the purple ACL scheme. (The maroon was known locally as “German Purple” fom some German built streamlined trains that ran with them). GM1 is with ARG, and is looked after well, and only used when badly needed. GM3 is with the EMD licensee, EDI Rail at Bathurst. GM10 is owned by Chicago Freight Car, and is in lease service. It is lettered Great Northern, but painted in GM&O maroon and red.
GM12 to GM47 were 16-567C units , 1750 or 1800 HP, and were driven on all axles. They had four portholes each side, which made them look m