Near miss on Amherst railroad tracks

http://www.gazettenet.com/2009/07/31/videographer-catches-near-miss-railroad-tracks

Brought the train to a stop.Fast

Rich

This is one of the stupidists things have I ever seen with a train. I have never seen this in my entire life of trains, with some girl not doing it by accident, but on purpose. I thought she was going to get hit. I love trains, but not trains almost hitting people. I hope that girl in the Orange T-Shirt goes to Jail along with her other friend, in the blue T-Shirt. Stupidity.

notice how the video is cut and paste however, watch the red truck in beginning of the video.

the red truck disapears in middle of crossing ???

Yea, your right, the red truck does disappear. But still, when the girl in the orange shirt goes out in front of the Amtrak that’s not cut at all, not by all means. You can really tell that because the Amtrak stops in 14 seconds from when he crossed the crossing at full speed. You can tell how he used the emergency brake by all the brake shoe smoke coming from the engine when he passes the crossing in front of the camera. Some serious accident could of happened here, but it didn’t. Like I say, Stupidity happens, but someone learns by the police, in detention or jail.

I wonder why the engineer stopped? He didn’t hit her. It wasn’t that close.

Ya only plug 'em after ya bump 'em.

Seems this is becomming too typical of something to do with these young folk…What a shame to have a mindset as such to do this kind of thrill seeking…Terrible.

And how about the “years off the engineer’s life” witnessing this…

One thing impressing in the video to me: How quickly the train was able to stop…Within it’s length…!

That’s bringing down the speed on pretty good tonnage really quick…Just the engines alone adds a couple hundred tons of weight to bring to a halt.

But the action of the young person is beyond rational thinking…! This time, she lucked out. I hope it is not tried again.

Apparently you have never driven a locomotive. Their are road crossings and the engineer is trained to do this. The E stop is close by their hand. Once you hit the E stop, the action has to be completed by the controls. It should be obvious.

I have worked on high speed machines that have a E stop. If you hit the button and realize there was no problem, too late. The controls have to go thought their cycle they are designed for.

Rich

Not only did this moronic teen-aged girl (no other descriptive term seems to do justice to her stupidity) obviously and deliberately run in front of the Amtrak train, but (here is the REALLY stupid part) she and her friend (and the older lady, apparently her mother or grandmother) seemingly don’t understand why the train has been put into emergency stop! AND, we all know if the train had indeed hit her, her family would be on TV about how Amtrak was at fault and then filing a law suit against Amtrak and the host railroad for negligence. Once more folks…STUPID DOES AS STUPID IS.

The woman in the video is the railfan’s mom, and apparently chewed the two out after the train had stopped.

What disturbs me is that the conductor did not detrain and ask questions and get names. And I am sure the engineer didn’t feel well enough at that point to really want to move on. Who knows what went on in the cab of the locomotive duirng this stupid stunt! But, what is the date of this incident, there is a copyright 2002 note on it.

Sorry, but a simple chewing out of those two just does not seem like enough of a reaction to me.

I don’t know if it is a cut and paste, I don’t use my video camera that often and have accidently bumped the record button before, that would give exactly the same effect seen in the video.

Doug

Rich,

I think that zardoz was asking why the engineer even put the train into emergency to begin with, some don’t "plug em’ " until contact has been made. I don’t remember for sure, but I think that Zardoz may be one of the working rails that contributes to these forums.

Doug

Henry6

The date was July 24, 2009, Skyman2002 is the videographers youtube user Id. I was also surprized that the conductor didn’t detrain and get some IDs, I agree that the engineer may not have been in the mood to do so right then, and it may have proved embarassing, there may have been an odor present, and he may have needed some fresh britches (I wouldn’t blame him, if he did)

Doug

All I can say is, its a good thing she did not slip on her little jump across the tracks.

Hey ZARDOZ this guys dont know his butt from a whole in the ground. Niether myself nor zardoz have driven a locomotive, ( maybe i should make sure ) Hey zardoz do they put steering wheels on your locomotives??? And just what training have i missed ??? learn to put a train in emergency? Heck conductors are tought that day 1. And this train was nowhere close to hitting them and for these people to insist we need our pants changed every close call we have You think we be in diapers or naked on the engine so we wouldnt soil our clothes. Now there is a thought us 280 pound guys riding naked for all to see. kinda sends warm feelings down your spine now dont it, or maybe its from the soiled pants.

Wabash,

I didn’t claim that you guys need clean shorts for every close call, but I wouldn’t have blamed him in that one. She was a lot closer than I would want to stand in front of an Amtrak rolling at track speed, and evidently, the engineer on that train thought so too, seeing as he did plug the train.

I have not had a front row seat to a locomotive/pedestrian incident, but I have been the first on the scene of a fatal auto accident, and that was bad enough. To see (and hear) up close and personal what an engineer would see, I’ll take a pass on that experience Thank You Very Much. My earlier reply was in support of zardoz, and in no way meant to be derogatory towards train crewmen, Sorry if you took it that way

Doug

I’m retired now, but when I was working if we dumped the air everytime some idiot did what

this girl did we wouldnt ever get over the road, I have to agree that this wasnt even close

as far as “near misses” go, if they go out of sight in front of the train then you “plug em”

not only the above but you know if someone is playing chicken because they are looking

at you and totally disregarding the horn,

Who here, railroad employee, retired railroad employee, or never employee, who amongs any of us right now, could know what when on in eyes and mind of that engineer at that particular moment? How can we say we wouldn’t have done anything any different? Who would have opened the trottle to go faster? Who would have been hiding in the back of the engine compartment? Who would have ducked behind the engineer’s desk? Who would have just maintained speed and given the girl the finger out the window as he swept by? Or thown his lunch pail or his lunch out the window for that matter? Of course no one can say how they would have reacted, not matter how practiced, or macho, or experienced or inexperienced. It was a moment. We only know the moment by what the camera told us.

Of course we cannot know what was on the mind of that engineer, but those of us that have “been there done that” understand that there are certain experiences that we all share. Same as truck drivers. Same as pilots. Same as _____________ (insert vocation here).

In addition, our experience behind the throttle tells us that at 79mph, an emergency application of brakes will not even be felt for the first few hundred feet, due to the time it takes for the air system to activate and apply sufficient pressure against the wheel to begin retarding speed. And even then, it will take another couple of hundred feet for the speed to begin to come down. And because of that limitation, we have learned that anything that happens directly in front of you is going to happen regardless of any action taken in the cab.

Judging how fast the train in the video stopped, either he plugged it way before the crossing, or he wasn’t going more than about 50. Of course, it may have been a relatively inexperienced engineer, or he may have very recently been involved in a different incident which left him a bit nervous.

Are you serious?

Now THAT is a possibility.