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Evenin’ Guys!

I’m back and have the bar … Leon will be a bit late this evenin’ …

Appears that our late afternoon gathering has lived up the place a bit … [swg] Always can count on BudKarr for his [2c] opinion! Which of course is alright 'round here - we all have 'em. Just don’t want to get it in the range of insulting or personal. That can be a fine line to walk when one considers we are in the Ether and truly are unaware of the reactions one may have to our words and connotations. Then you crank in social, religious, national and cultural differences and - that’s how wars begin! [swg]

No, no, no - not accusing you of starting anyting BK! Appreciate your input and hope to see you back soon again. [tup]

When I was in Norway years ago - actually decades ago, riding trains was the furthest thing on my mind. Our ship pulled into Oslo for a 3 day/night stay. What a great time! A story for another time 'n place; maybe Toronto in May! [swg] I envy you for having the opportunity to travel to Scandanavia - great part of the world.

Also can “relate” a bit to your comments regarding Monteral’s QE Hotel. We’ve stayed there too and enjoyed it. However, I’ve opted to stay across the street from Central Station, with a room with windows overlooking the tracks! Lots to look at … [swg]

troybetts Troy You got it - one straight glass at the end of the bar with your name on the coaster! [tup] Amazing how this place of ours seems to be a gathering point for some serious and light hearted rail talk. Infectious is the word I’m thinking of … and one doesn’t need a “shot” to get on with life! [swg]

We’ll be looking for your Posts on the Classics Trams or Trains - works 'round here.

pwolfe Pete Thanx for stopping in. The 2nd URL didn’t work … maybe it’s temporarily down. I’ll check it out later. I think you’ve develop

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Aftternoon Tom and the gang…

Hope i’m not too late for lunch, non alcoholic whatever (Near Beer, yuck!), gotta keep sharp. I’ve been occupied all day interviewing, charging and booking some indivdules who refused to play nice in the sandbox, so to speak.

Thought I’d breeze in for a quick vist to acknowledge all the thought provoking conversation occuring at “Our Place”. Awk deserves the best Tom…Hate to leave, but processing awaits with all the associated forms, statements, witness accounts,etc.

I shall return later as time permits .
Allow me to cover a round for the house in the meantime. Bong…bong…clang…I see the bell still has that flat spot, Boris?

Dave
[:D]

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G’evening everyone, Tom or Leon, I need to catch the “early bird” special: baked stuffed fillet of Flounder (w/blue crab), scalloped spuds and Broccoli spears in a rich cheddar cheese sauce, please.[^] Chrissy? Where on earth did that come from?[:I] Must’ve been from some previous encounter from my sordid past of “one-nighters” on the road.[:-^] Say Russell, please check me on this. Isn’t this the URL? www.kcstar.com to find the archive (Sunday October 31, 1999, section U). Perhaps “Special Editions” under “Archives” will be helpful search words.

Hi troybetts, your gravitation to “Our” Place sounds very familiar. Yes, I believe most of us had “run the gauntlet” of wide-open-forums before Proprietor Tom opened his cyber saloon. I like to think the strongest features of this thread is all of the things it ISN’T.[tup] Those “things” being some user’s endless negative rhetoric on inane points of trivia taken to “adnauseum.”[banghead] There is no shortage of Guinness or lager glasses, so we will be here when you are.[tup]

“Xcuuuse moi” (Steve Martin, “Sat. Night Live”), do you NFL “back in the saddle again” Fans recall where the Stanely Cup now languishes? Let’s not count our Red Wings and Maple Leafs lest a Lightning Bolt comes from out of the “Blue.”[swg] Count 'em nine hotels owned by C.N. alone. I do recall those oppulent natural wood paneled dining rooms with the polished flat ware, decoratively folded, spotless table linens, hand burnished brass appointments, Drezden high stemmed crystal, etal. And, always the aroma of wonderful entrees melding together with rich coffee and just a tinge of fine furniture polish; it was unmistakably “first class.”[^] As a wee Lad, it only meant dressing in a suit and tie and little more, until now.[:D]

Come to think of it, I don’t recall seeing any Posts with definitive track plans involved. If anyone can elaborate on the reason, please share. I’m guessing the software must be very

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Evenin’ Gents!

And so it continues … the Thursday night Fish 'n Chips and the bunch in the back room shooting pool. Large screen TV’s ready for baseball and hockey. Should be a good night 'round here. [swg]

West Coast S Dave “Book 'em Dave-o” - sorry, just had to say that! [;)] Business first, then fun ‘n frivolity. Takin’ care of business is understood … one has to do what one has to do in order to keep the bills paid.

Appreciate the round - Boris ring the bell! By the way, I think I missed acknowledging a round from you last night - my apologies! [tup]

Manager Ted You must have reverted back to your position as Interim Chief Chief [C=:-)], for I don’t recall seeing those selections on the Nick’s Picks Menu Board. Good ones and no doubt will be popular with the track gang. [swg]

Appreciate the URL and if memory is correct, I do believe they charge for archival stuff. Hope not …

Regarding track plan development, I’ll probably drop an inquiry on the appropriate Forum for some feedback. My S Capades layout idea for the 4-point hoist system came from such an effort. Also have received some other very helpful info on an assortment of other questions. All’s not negative - just that there are so many people who frequent these forums with apparently very little in the form of a life. Then again, it would be easy to apply that label to me! <Good Grief!>

Tampa Bay Lightning! Oh [yeah], who could forget that NHL Stanley Cup in the bastion of Hockeydom known as Florida. Another <Good Grief!> I’m a fan from the days of the “original six.” Still shudder at the thought of the first expansion to include St. Louis, Philadelphia, etc. It all worked out and here we are today with more teams than people willing to fill the seats. Ain’t that the way [?]

While I don’t recall staying at any of the premier railr

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pwolfe, thanks again for 2 terrific URL sites. I wish I had included the Isle of Man on my Irish intenerary now. All of towns and villages look absolutely hand manicured, the rolling stock, buses and taxis are meticulously cared for as well. A far cry from my views of the “Old Sod.” This is not a condemnation, only an observation. What a wonderful, pristine business car that Canadian Car and Foundry specimen is. You know, I would like nothing more than being a “third wheel” on any plans for a sojourn to the U.K. for that “first class” rail pass adventure. As everything we touch is now going “out of sight” with fuel inflation, the prospects grow dimmer by each month. Thanks for the additional “poop” on prior subjects Tom. BTW, that Hotel in Mobile wouldn’t have been the Malaga would it? Just a “shot in the dark.” Now, I really must “call it a day.” 'til tomorrow.

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RIGHT----a return to roots tonight I think,[4:-)]TOM-when ROB,our recently recruited chandler of the bar,first suggested Fish & Chip night. It was as a traditional " wrapped in newspaper & eaten on the way home from the cinema" type of event,since then it has evolved into a bizarre Rabelaisian feast which rather loses sight of its origins,therefore,tonight we are delighted to offer:- Cod,Haddock or Plaice in batter (large or small) also Skate Wing or Rock Salmon to order,sausages,saveloys,black puddings and chicken quarters battered or plain,a variety of pies & pasties,onion rings,apple or pineapple fritters,pickled Onions & eggs are in the jars by the pigs feet,chips in small,medium & large Salt,Vinegar Ketchup etc are on the side counter-----Enjoy [^]...........O.K,whilst you lot are making up your minds,on to post---[4:-)]TOM-E-Mail R&R-have checked back to earlier pix-definately a more streamlined you-lookin lean & mean ma man,works for you[tup]-Simon & Garfunkel strangely tempting,something about those pure high harmony notes-notes we can all hit,but pitched an octave above,where angels fear to tread-still sends a shiver up the back-and not much does these days.....back to trains,comments noted R.E. Athearn cars,suspect problem is more with my P/Way,as to wheelsets,these babies are running on inside bearing axles with disc brakes mounted outside the wheels-standard Bombardier design,I believe but no replacements available from stock-strangely,the matching Walthers F40-ph is also prone to measuring its length in the ballast whilst the VIA livery one runs faultlessly…[:-^]…go figure,as they say…PETE-get em over here and well show em a time !![^]!!--the ancient Celtic tradition of the breakfast lock-in,the endless variety of single-malts,every kind of train from 160 year old n/g steam to Eurostars,Pendolinos & H/row Express--have the combined volume for 62 to hand-checking as we speak-Havn`t had time to check I.O.M site yet but have some Manx steam pix from books that may complement whats there

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Good evening gents. Tom Blue it is [sigh] I’ll have to teach you the finer points of CDN beers when you arrive next may.Thanks for the piece on CNR hotels. I’ve never spent a night at any of them but I have lunched at the Fort Gary[:O] I never knew that french onion soup could cost $10 in the 1980’s[sigh] oh well the decor and the service could not be beat. [swg] Ted Fire away with your email, I’m sure that you are just being har***o your efforts again. Few people except for Troy and yourself can pull off the scratch building of trolley’s ‘n’ trams in “G” let alone other scales. nick Thanks for getting back to the roots of the fish and chip night. Put me down for the cod please. The club i mentioned was not the one I belonged too. Ours pailed by comparisin in size and in completenss and functionality. But you are right alot of the scenery in the shots I put up were worked on by myself and my good friend and partner in crime who’s currently that clubs president. Pete Wow dangnabbitt you done and did it again. I haven’t made it through the first two sites yet and he drops two more [swg][tup] keep them comming it’s really good stuff. Troy I haven’t found your email yet. If you sent it from your home it’s likely in my junk folder, my comoputer does that until i add you to my safe list / address book. If I’m unable to retreave it i’ll send you another email throught he forum an dlet you know. My main question for you if you got the forum email from me was which type of PCC you would like the shots of. Our museum is blessed in that we have both all electric and air electric models. In many different shapes and forms. Personally I like TTC 4000 our air electric. Being it was built in 1938 it still has all it’s art deco lines [tup] I’d love to see and hear your tram tales as well.One can never have too much “juice” I was glad to hear that te NO transit faired fairly well, indeed good news from an otherwise awfull situation,I figured that everyone would have been happy to hear th

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Hi tom and all.

[wow][C=:-)]NICK has made me really think of England with the Fish and Chips. The wife can’t believe we used to wrap them in newspaper. I’ll have the plaice as it was not always available at our local chippy. You had to ask for one to be put in and wait while it cooked and of course it cost more. A pint of Bathams to wash it down please.

YES TED you would be more than welcome to come to England. It would be great if we could have a OUR PLACE visit there. At the moment I dont know when I can get back over.

As to the ISLE OF MAN to my shame I have only been there once over 20 years ago. A friend and I sailed from Heysham Lancashire on the Isle of Man Steam Packet Co. Manx Queen. It was a smallish ship with about 6 motor cars on the stern. We found the bar as the restaurant had a large queue. It was quite busy but soon emptied until there was just three of us and the bar-man. The bar was situated mid-ships and it wasnt until I had to go to the heads that I realised that the Irish Sea had gotten quite rough. When we got to the little hotel the owner said he had been there 15 years and that was the first ferry he has seen dock sidewards.Being new to the sea then I was blissfully unaware.

The Isle of Man was just like stepping back in time. They used to sell a 3 day ticket valid for the vintage transport. They even have Horse trams running along the seafront between the steam and electric depots. The great thing was the original cars and locos some of which has been running for over 100 years.

One memory was we went on a mystery motor coach tour, booked in advance. When it came to depart, a sea fog had descended and I could just about see the roadside hedges but no further. The bus driver still gave the commentary on what we would have seen if it was clear. At least we stopped in a small village with a good pub.

NICK Although there was not a British Railway 2P4-4-0 saved, did you know that there is an almost identic

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Good Morning Gents

It’s a bit early but ah what the heck make mine a

Kieth’s!

Well it’s good to be home on the dry stuff for a while and in a more temperate climate. Though the heat once I got home was a bit oppresive (High 60’s)

I spent three hours on the tarmack yesterday afternoon with three inches of snow on the ground and a 30 knot wind and engaged in flight ops. A tad too chilly!

Yes it’s good to get home!

Lisa will be bringing home some more Kieth’s tonight Tom… Want one?

Anyway I thought I’d drop in and say hello and by the way Tom thanks for the e-mails as they were always a highlight to a normally laclustre day.

Later Gents

Fergie

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Mornin’ Gang!

Looks like I’ve gotta bit of catch up before gettin’ the Summary out …

Checked out rather early last night - really was tired! [zzz] Happens! [swg]

Ted I’ve really “racked my brain” and cannot for the life of me come up with the name of the hotel in Mobile. That was 1950, though and I was 12! Anyway, I remember it was “catywumpus” from the Waterman Steamship headquarters building on the main street in Mobile. I rather large and elegant place. Did some searches on the web just to see if there are any “hits” on “hotels of the 1950’s in Mobile” - but came up empty.

By the by, there’s a lady looking for you, oh there she is

said her name is Chrissy and she really, really needs to talk to you about a personal matter of delicacy. Stay tuned … [swg]

Nick A great all inclusive Post from our West Wales Correspondent - good show, mate! [tup][tup][tup] Now, what did you say [?]

I’m hardly at my enlistment weight back in '56. That would be nice, but some things have changed and others have “shifted.” [swg] Happens. I suspect this weight loss will be a temporary thing - alas. I would really like to trim ship a bit before the winter sets in and I become even more lethargic.

Should you be able to make the Rendezvous in Toronto we’ll just have to sample all of those beers that Rob and you seem to think I know very little about! Remember - I’m the guy who introduced many of the gang to Alexander Keiths (fine) Pale Ale from Nova Scotia as well as Kokanee from British Columbia. If it’s a challenger you are hinting at - bring it on! [yeah]

I took another “tour” of your pix and your model railroad. Really like the mix that you’ve put together. That’s one of the more pleasan

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FRIDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

Reminder: Tonight is Pizza Nite plus Steak ‘n Fries to start the weekend! [dinner] Dinner begins at 5 PM! [tup]

Info for the Day:

Comin’ Events:

Saturday, Oct 8th : OKTOBERFEST!
Sunday, Oct 9th Sunday Photo Posting Day!
Wednesday, Oct 12th: The 6th month Anniversary of the creation of ”Our” Place.

INDEX

Index pages for Fallen Flags, etc.

Generic URL: Just insert the index page in place of “106,” copy ‘n paste ‘n “go,”

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=106&TOPIC_ID=35270

-or- insert the index page in the address portion of this page (at the top).

106 – SP
106 – MoPac
108 – WP
109 – Frisco
112 – CNR (passenger ops)
112 – CNR Super Continental Time Table
112 – Heralds of the Fallen Flags
113 - Passenger Train Nostalgia #1 “Start ups” 1800’s & early 1900’s
114 – ACL
115 – SCL
116 - D&RGW
117 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #2 Vista-Dome sleeper observation-lounge
118 – RI
119 – D&H
120 - PRR
121 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #3 CP Hotels & Lodges
122 – NYC
124 – A Tale of Classic Trains – BC Rail RDC trip
124 – UP (passenger ops)
125 – AT&SF
127 – B&O
127 – B&O Strata-Dome ad
127 – B&O Encor! ad
128 – CM&StP
129 – CB&Q
129 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #4 CN Hotels, Ltd.

SUMM

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[#welcome] Home Chief Officer Fergie! Another trip logged and some inport time to take full advantage of. [yeah] I recall those days (daze)!

Nice of you to stop by this morning, and YES I’d love to enjoy a Keiths. Whoa! This is a bar 'n grill, I can have as many of those and some others, as I wish! [yeah] Somehow, the taste is just a tad “off.” [swg]

Glad the Emails were some degree of pleasantness for you while up in the Arctic. As we’ve discussed - didn’t have that capability back in “my day.” Then again, motive powered ships were rather new as well!

You might enjoy the Fallen Flags series that are rather recent. Suggest you check the SUMMARY page for more detail on how to find 'em.

Catch ya later and don’t be a stranger!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

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G’mornin’ we few, trust your day will be another welcomed “T.G.I.F.” Sure glad I’m not living in N.Y. sweating the subway threats. Just driving the streets 'round here is scary enough. Let’s see, a good old fashioned glazed cruller and Brazillian boiled beans should do the trick this A.M. Hey Tom and Nick, I wrested the Flounder fillets from the depths of the walk-in freezer where Boris was catching a few “ZZZs” for his mid afternoon siesta. Otto’s Monacle and Manacle Shoppe? Why yes, I did drop in once, prompted by morbid curiosity. Couldn’t get beyond the first showcase displaying sundry items of carnal arousel. Wouldn’t want any of that appearing on my Visa invoices, don’t cha now.[xx(]

Rob and Russell you have mail. The Title of the K.C. Star article in question is: “Symbol of the city.” My Uncle sent this special section to me 6 years ago. BTW, the “massacre” in front of Union Station is also examined in the article. Seems K.C. was rife with “Mob” crime during and after the Pendergast machine.[:O] This would be contemporary with the Al Capone days in Chicago (circa 1930’s).[#offtopic] Okay, pull your leash lanyard Boris, this round is on me. Tom, while I’m still “off base,” thought I’d mention a similar confrontation to your’s in the “City.” This occured in Regina, Saskatchewan (the Hub of U.S. Draft Dodgers). I didn’t need to clinch a fist as the local Canadians “cleaned their plow” at the first sign of an ultrication.[tup] We all then repaired to the Hotel pub for a “serious” night of ribaldry.[^]

Troy, seems we share in common the “itch” to “scratch.” I did a few items of rolling stock in ‘HO’, a couple of ‘S’ gauge standard heavyweights and a Cinn. Car in 1:30 ‘G’ gauge. I do work from shop plans (dimensions) where possible but go from photos for structures. Hopefully, I will have some pix up for the “Our” Place Sunday Photo Fun a.s.a.practical. The P.C.C. should be a challange with its delicate contours

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Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Soo Line

Headquarters: Minneapolis, MN

Mileage:

1954: 3,159
1961 (before 1985 acquisition of Milwaukee Road): 4,719

Locomotives in 1954:

Steam: 47
Diesel: 76

Rolling stock in 1954:

Freight cars: 8,035
Passenger cars: 128

Principal routes (w/Wisconsin Central) in 1954:

Chicago-Minneapolis/St. Paul
Minneapolis-Portal, ND
Minneapolis-Sault Ste. Marie, MI
Dresser, WI-Duluth, MN
Owen, WI-Duluth, MN
Glenwood-Noyes, MN

Passenger trains of note:

Atlantic Limited (Minneapolis-Boston, with CP and B&M east of Sault Ste. Marie)
Copper Country Limited (Chicago-Calumet, MI with CMStP&P Chicago-Champion, MI, thence DSS&A/Soo to Calumet)
Duluth-Superior Limited (Minneapolis-Duluth)
Laker (Chicago-Duluth & Minneapolis &Ashland, WI; rerouted to Superior, WI from Duluth in 1961)
Mountaineer (St. Paul-Vancouver, BC, with CP from Portal to Vancouver)
Soo Dominion (St. Paul-Vancouver with CP from Portal to Vancouver)
Winnipeger (St. Paul-Winnipeg, MB, with CP from Noyes to Winnipeg)

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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6th Month Anniversary of “Our” Place

WHEN [?] . . . Wednesday, Oct 12th

TIME [?] . . . Any time!

FOR [?] . . . All customers of “Our” Place, but in particular, the members of the Order of the Stools

THEME [?] . . . A personal railroading experience. Yes, personal! Doesn’t matter if you’ve mentioned it previously - “do overs” are more than welcome! [tup]

Thanx to Manager and part-time Desperado, Ted for this most appropriate idea for the celebration! [tup][tup][tup]

Remember, no participation equates to no interest 'round here! Don’t be left out, this has all the makings for a grand time at our bar 'n grill - help us make it so! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

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Hello all.Evening here (16.45)
Pwolfe.I am lucky to have a full sized steam railway very close to me.When the wind is in the right direction I get free sound effects for the garden railway !
My next door neighbour is apprenticed to their workshop and a work colleague drives the trains on weekends.Needless to say I get some really good opportunities for photos and all of my children have been lucky enough to drive a real steam engine.(and Dad)
They have 2 U.S 060’s.One has been in the workshops for ages.The other is in war livery (grey with white lettering) and has been the main performer all of this season.Soon however it will enter the shop for a full overhaul (years)
Theodorebear.-I love scratchbuilding.I try and do it without plans,using just photos and a scale figure.
Am Right in assuming that photos are allowed on Sundays.If so I’ll post a picture of each of my models so far.
Well that’s all for now.
Troy
Ps.Rob if you didn’t get the e-mail let me know and I’ll resend.

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G’day!

Cindy go ahead and take your lunch break … I’ll handle the bar. [tup]

Manager Ted

If you are willing, I’d like to have you become the Assistant Chief Chef [C=:-)] for "Our Place. Your flare for the culinary most assuredly will enhance the efforts put forth by Chief Chief [C=:-)] Nick all the while filling a void caused by time zone differences. So, whaddyasay [?]

Another fine inclusive Post and much appreciated. Oh if only the brain dead could somehow come 'round to understand that one can have meaningful info exhanges along with some levity, without the helter skelter approach going on elsewhere. But, who cares - really [?] We’re here and they aren’t! [tup]

That encounter I had with the protesting 20-something in NYC back at the height of the anti-everything protests was told before on this thread. Still gives me a reason to smile, for I truly enjoyed spreading his nose all over his face. [yeah] Probably could have ended my military career, given some of the people we seem to have running the show these days. Can you just imagine the press coverage in NYC with today’s rabid dog approach to things like that [?] For once, I was in the RIGHT place at the RIGHT time and perhaps that creep will never forget it either. [swg] Okay - [#offtopic] Boris ring the bell, the round’s on the Proprietor! [tup]

The idea of yours regarding our 6th Month Anniversary is now policy. Thanx for the theme - and also the wake-up call to our Order of the Stools members - good thinking, even though you’re older than dirt! [swg]

I noticed that Rob hasn’t picked up on my references in some past SUMMARIES to Thanksgiving in Canada coming up this Monday. Perhaps he’s embarrassed that I’m “onto” him - ya know, back bacon 'n beer for the main course!

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Morning Tom and the gang… Tom you have a message…

Where does one begin?

Welcome aboard troybetts, always refreshing to see a new face at “Our Place” Hold on to your wallet, taser and sanity when around Boris!

Wow…Chrissy…my, my, my…I don’t know Ted, you and I may have to vie for her attention over a good pint of dark ale and some sprited sportmanship. As I like to quip, “I’d leave my wife for a good steak” this would be much better!

Howdy PWolf, you’ve been a busy man indeed, your knowledge and experiences with British rail and everything British is outstanding… Personally, i’m ignorant on all subjects foreign and your informative post are opening new adventures for me…Thank you.

Nick…Par excellence with the fish and chips…only you can work the kitchen magic on so simple a dish, also very active in the local railway scene that is much appreciated. I nominate you and PWolf as the foreign reporters for “Our Place”. Now to impart a degree of sophisification to these parts, occasional post in Old English are encouraged, Say ’ ye Ole Tom, so say ’ ye all?

Tom…Bad boys, bad boys, watcha going to do when I come for you… Or as we like to say " book ‘n’ hook" around the office… I have never been able to reach a conclusion regarding the attraction criminals have to engage in criminal conduct five feet where i’m standing. I did all possible to compromise myself in their presence with no reaction. Some things must remain unexplained I guess…

I’ve been remiss in not acknowledging the Fallen Flags over the past several days.

Some say the Milwaukee’s Pacifc extension should never have been built. History would later prove these naysayers right, but in between birth and demise what a class operation! Steam, electric and later diesels from every builder in the spectrum, true appeal . So many no longer with us, today only the 261 remains to remind us how great the Milwakee was and how underappr

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G’day All!

GREAT BRITAIN PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #1 from multiple sources

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains, this time from Great Britain! Check this pre-WWI poster out!

ENGLAND & SCOTLAND

EAST COAST ROUTE

GREAT NORTHERN, NORTH EASTERN & NORTH BRITISH RAILWAYS

SHORTEST & QUICKEST ROUTE between LONDON (King’s Cross)
…………………………………. and ………………………………………….
EDINBURGH, PERTH, INVERNESS, ABERDEEN
…………………………………… &c ……………………………………………
DIRECT ROUTE TO GLASGOW AND WESTERN HIGLANDS.

DINING CARS – SLEEPING CARS – CORRIDOR TRAINS
…………………………………… and ……………………………………………
LAVATORY CARRIAGES.

London-Hatfield-Hitchin-Huntingdon-Peterboro-Grantham-Newark-Retford-Doncaster-Selby-York-NorthAllerton-Darlington-FerryHill-Durham-Newcastle-Alnmouth-Berwick-Dunbar-Edinburgh, Perth, Inverness, Aberdeen and Glasgow.

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

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Evening Tom and all. I’ll have Schlitz, and a round for the house! (Isn’t Schiltz a “fallen” classic beer)?
Here’s a fallen flag I doubt that anyone expected. I took this photo off a car at IRM. …who were bought-out by in 1996.
As near as I can tell, the Chicago and Illinois Midland (CIM) began in 1888, and was purchased by the Illinois Midland Coal Company in 1905. Commonwealth Edison then took ownership in 1907 until 1987. The railraod was held privately until 1996, when it was purchsed by Genesse and Wyoming.
Here’s a website for business car #90, which was built in 1890 by the St. Charles Car Company. http://www.midcontinent.org/collectn/stlpas/cim90.html
This is a great site to see how a particular car underwent modifications and changes in ownership over a 73 year active life.
Here’s a pic of one of their new Lima 2-8-2’s in 1928: http://www.steamlocomotive.com/mikado/cim551.jpg