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Hello Tom and all. It’s too early for ML so I’ll have a hot cup of Folgers and a cold cut sandwich. Definately feels like fall today with the cool weather, rain, and the colorful leaves both in the trees and on the ground.

Thanks for all the compliments who enjoyed my pics for yesterday’s Sunday Photo Posting Day. Rob, nice pics of the CP power and the Michigan Centrals St Thomas railway station/ freight shed. That is HUGE [:0]. I wouldn’t even try to model that in HO or any scale for that matter.

[bday][bday] to Boris [alien]. Enjoy your cake and watch out for the fireworks candles. Make a wish.

Now, something for HALLOWEEN

DON’T FEAR THE REAPER MUHA-A-A-A-A-A (or insert Vincent Price’s evil laugh here)

Yep, that’s me

I know pics are for Sundays, but it being Halloween I couldn’t resist.

Happy Halloween all,

Russell

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OOOOPS! Looks like I dropped in on the wrong party. This surely is some strangers Wake. I know things are getting a little slow hereabouts but I didn’t think we were leasing the pool room for funeral services.[:)] Hey Tom, make it a Crown and soda, if you please.[^] Good promotional stuff from the Budd folks on the R.D.C.s Sure miss 'em from the days in the Boston area.[tup] YIKES Russell, I hope you don’t get buck shot for a treat somewhere. CM3, thanks for the “skinny” on the Crescent. As you know, I’m modeling the Southern R.R. “leg” of that fine train. Your input is really helpful. Tom, I’m pretty sure the three witches are Ruthy, Lucy and Jemima and the cauldron is the guest’s cuspidor from the Patoot room. Noooo doubt the enginman is our esteemed and worthy propritor himself, right? Okay, I’ll check back when the Bash is in full swing. Help yourself to the punch bowl and dixie cups gents. Just don’t ask for the recipe. Its a “top secret” concoction that only [b]Nick{/b] knows. See Y’all a little later.

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Hello Mr. Manager!

Just waitin’ for YOU to arrive - after all, it’s YOUR showcase today! [swg]

Okay - let’s see, our guest of honor, Boris has already torn into the pile of gifts left under the “tree,” which is actually his favorite “stump” from out back - he just had to drag it into the pool room - kinda like a security blanket, donchaknow [?]

Anyway, he has three new pair (all LEFT) of steel-toed Boondockers for his 17 1/2 size cloven feet; the “indestructible” flashlight he wanted with one of those energy cells that supposedly will outlive the sun; another Dolly; and his favorite of all - a pet Armadillo named Tex. There appears to be remnants of food stuff and drink smattered throughout the remains of what was gift wrap and ribbons, but kinda hard to tell. The gals were in earlier but had to scram when he started “that thing” with “Dolly” … not good! Right now he’s trying to figure out whether to eat Tex or stomp him. They’re havin’ a great time … [wow]

Those 4x4’s across the entrance to the pool room have to stay put, at least until Leon the Night Man arrives, for he’s the only one, aside from Nick who seems to be able to calm this “thing” down!

Appreciate your “participation” in the Name the Characters of “Our” Place contest … here it is again:

Hmmmm, we have four original gals - where does Ann fit in [?] Recall that we have Ruth the redhead – Ann the blonde – Lucy the brunette and Jemima the raven haired beauty. Then of course there’s Cindy our other lovely who is in a word, stunning. Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble .

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Good Afternoon All: Coffee, please, round for the house and money to keep the tunes going.

Was looking through “many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore” yesterday (knew I could find a tie-in to Halloween somewhere) and found the following piece for the Erie Limited. The choice of language gave me pause, but here 'tis.

The Erie Limited

Fast
Modern Luxurious
Human

Individual Seat Coaches, Coach Club car. Superb Dining Car Service, Ultra Modern Sleeping and Parlor Cars. Sun Room Observation Lounge, Radio Equipped

New York – Buffalo- Chicago

Erie Railroad System – The Heavy Duty Railroad

Again this is from the early 30’s. Maybe they were trying to set their personnel up against the competition.

Have a good night and see you tomorrow. I promise I’ll open the door quietly and try not to shine my caplight directly on anybody.

work safe

P.S. to our "steamed manager (he got to close to the cooker?) IIRC< we do stuff related to model rrs on Wednesday. Can we do nostalgic model stuff for that section?

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Thanx to coalminer3 CM3 a great idea for another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Erie Railroad

Headquarters: Cleveland, OH

Mileage in 1950: 2,341

Locomotives in 1960:

Diesel: 695

Rolling stock in 1960:

Freight cars: 20,372
Passenger cars: 519

Principal routes in 1950:

Jersey City-Paterson, NJ-Middletown-Hornell, NY-Youngstown, OH-Chicago (Hammond-Chicago via rights on the Chicago & Western Indiana)
Marion-Dayton-Cincinnati, OH (Dayton-Cincinnati via rights on the B&0)
Hamilton, OH-Indianapolis, IN (rights on the B&O)
Leavittsburg-Cleveland, OH
Pymatuning, PA-Leavittsburg, OH
Hornell-Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY
Salamanca-Dunkirk, NY
Corning (Painted Post)-Attica, NY
Avon-Rochester, NY
River Junction-Cuba Junction, NY
Carrolton, NY-Eleanora Jct., NY (Brockway-Eleanora Jct. via B&O rights)
Corning, NY-Newberry, Jct., PA
Lanesboro-Wilkes Barre & Scranton, PA
Lackawaxen-Avoca, PA
Newburgh Jct.-Campbell Hall-Graham, NY
Maybrook-Pine Island, NY
Croxton (Jersey City)-Nyack, NY
Piermont-Suffern, NY
NY&NJ Jct.,-Ridgewood Jct.
Paterson (Newark Jct.)-Newark, NJ
Croxton-Midvale, NJ

Passenger trains of note:

Erie Limited (Jersey City-Chicago & Buffalo)
Lake Cities (Jersey City-Cleveland & Buffalo; later extended to Chic

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Afternoon Tom and the gang, betcha thought I fell off the edge of the planet these past few weeks, anyhow I feel like i’ve fallen off the edge of the planet…Round for the house, your call…

Afternoon all, as you might surmise I have quite a bit of catching up to do. Tom, i’m out of the Federal Protection business after a heated exchange with my superiors, i’ll be returning to duty in a new capacity hopefully, decision awaits. I’ll have my new puter together soon, so will be able to return to fold on a regular basis…Technology is a wonderfull thing…

Quite a bit has occured during my extended absence, i’ll do my best to get up speed and provide some updated postings.

Until later, Boris, lead those size 17 1/2 boondockers over to the bell and do your thing.

Dave

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G’day (evenin’) Gents!

Well, this is a revoltin’ development! A [bday] party for Boris and hardly a stir was felt in the house … And where’s Nick, not to mention our Host [?] Strange things are happen’ … woooooooooooooo - in the night! [swg]

coalminer3 CM3 appreciate the info and “inspiration” regarding the Erie - great name for the day and good idea too!

Thanx for the round AND the quarters! [tup]

West Coast S Dave Send me an Email when you come up for air. Certainly glad you’re still “one of us,” was surely wonderin’ …

Thanx for the round! [tup]

Well, let’s see - I’ve Posted TWO Fallen Flags and one NOSTALGIA piece along with a “contest,” of sorts. Hardly any takers. Okay - so I’ll get back to what I was doin’ and check y’all later …


Who ARE these Characters [?]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

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BOO!!

Hello Tom and everyone. I thought I would come in and haunt sit a spell or so. A Miller Lite for me Tom.

Just waiting for trick-or-treators.

I’m [#offtopic] with this post so Boris ring the thing. The next round is on me. Oh and [bday] to you.

Happy Halloween

Russell

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Hi TOM and all.

[bday][bday]BORIS my present is in the package by the door.

For the party perhaps NICK can ship over some Moorhouse’s Pendle Witches Brew after a few of those you dont need a broomstick to fly[swg][yeah].

Thanks for the Flags and Nostalgia. There is a great photo of a Budd RD1 on page 8 of the new Winter 2005 issue of Classic Trains.May I echo MANAGER TED’s thanks for the great posts lately. [tup][tup].

TOM Is the person[?] in the 3rd truck BORIS[?].
A tale for Halloween.

It was a very foggy October 31st 1944 somewhere in England as they used to say. Actually it is the exchange sidings connecting the L.N.E.R line to the U.S.A.F. airbase in East Anglia.

Amos Smith a native of Iowa is in the enginemans shanty with his young stoker and the crew of the freight train that has brought the trucks he is to take to the airfield. They are holed up in the hut as there has been a air-raid warning. They had heard the sound of aircraft including one that was very low but the planes were heading further inland.

After a while Jed the singleman poked is head in the door of the hut to let them know that the all-clear had been given and they could move off.

The loco’s used on the line to the base were 0-6-0 switcher tank locos built by Baldwin for the U.S. Transportion Corps. The line followed an original branch line for most of the way until swinging off on a new piece of ROW after crossing over the Big Cut River on an old swing-bridge which had luckily survived the branches closure.

After the young Stoker had brought the steam pressure up, they set off down the branch. the fog had gotten thicker but the Corps of Transport track crew had done a really good job of re-laying the track. Still the short wheel-based 0-6-0 was doing its usual waggle like dance. I’m getting too old for this thought Amos as he peered out into the wet fog .

As they approached the curve to the bridge th

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Happy[bday] Boris, and a spooktacular Halloween to all Our Place Members. I guess I can handle a Zombie in honor of tonights celebration, thanks Tom Love the “double take” CM3, “Erie” with eerie.[^] That Road had some peculiar looking passenger rolling stock. The vestibule ends took on an almost European appearance with narrow arched window frames as well. Even the monitor roof line on some older cars had an odd geometry that suggested a Asian influence. Thanks to you and Tom, perhaps other Members will “pile on” this Road at later posts.[tup]

Boris is entirely thrilled with his presents.[alien] Especially that new brick bat he delights in smashing up the decorations with.[:O] Welcome back Dave, I threw out some bait for you re: Pacific Electric which I hope you might bring into sharper focus.[tup] Tom, that’s Annie seated in the “boat tail” observation car. Cindy works weekends only, right? As to the other four or five “Simpsons,” I’ll leave that for our later guests, if there are any.[:(]

Great costume Russell, and the “Grim Reaper” is certainly appropriate for this evening’s activity.[v] Well that’s okay, Halloween is really more for the younger set that still have a spark of imagination. [#oops]I just sampled the punch bowl![xx(] Gadfrey Daniel, no wonder there are so many “no shows.” The “word” must have gone out to everyone that the “punch is spiked.”[:O] Okay, Boris, its been grand and please remind me next year to “keep my big mouth shut.”[8] Good night all and happy entrails.

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Evenin’ Guys!

Pete A great story and very appropriate for the occasion for sure! [tup][tup][tup]

The Characters in the pix can be anyone you wish! That’s the idea of this “contest” - really no particular answer! [yeah] [wow] [swg]

I haven’t received my Winter issue of Classic Trains yet, but will surely look for that RDC! Thanx … [tup]

Appreciate your stoppin’ by and have one on me!

Russell Received your Email and responded … thanx! [tup] Been a rather slow night 'round here as far as Trick or Treaters are concerned - the rains of the day and night have surely put the damper on this day for kids! [tdn]

Appreciate the round AND the pix! [swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

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Wait, wait - oh, well he’s outta here!

Okay Manager Ted nice bit you pulled off. Arrived late - departed - dropped in to say goodbye and YOU think you’ve had it tough! Seems that I’ve been defacto host by virtue of my barkeep responsibilities. Good thing Boris now has Leon to “play” with, otherwise I’d have him shipped to sunny FLA to bunk with “youse.” By the by, a friend of mine may want to visit as well. You remember Vito the Hit! doncha [?]

I think you’ve done a credible job with putting some identities to the Characters in the “train.” So let’s see - The Proprietor in the loco - three of our gals, Ruth - Lucy and Jemima in the first car - Boris in the green outfit in the 2nd car and Ann back in the 3rd car. Hmmmmmm. [yeah] Why not![?] Good job, Ted with some help from Pete!!

The one thing we don’t know is just how old is Boris[?][?][?] I think only Nick knows the answer, and who knows what’s goin’ on with him these DAZE!![?]

That was a stroke of creativity on CM3’s part to come up with the Erie input … I just happened to have the Fallen Flag in my “pending” file … so it just was a natural response. Glad he thought of it, because it simply never occured to me …Eeeeeeerie, isn’t it [?] [swg]

Catch y’all later …

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

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Good evening gentlemen. I’ve arrived later than I expected. Happy blated Boris. BTW I’ve left your gift outside your shed. An armadillo house and a length of chain to walk him with.

Tom I figured that it was boris on the front of the train with Ruthy in his hand the other three girls stiring a dirve by poster in the second car. I figured that Leon was wearing the pumpkin and Ted and I were riding the tail end car.

Loved todays two installments of fallen flags. Loved Eries early paint job ( before the Lakawanna merger ) Like Ted i’ve never had much experience with the N&W ither than seeing still shots of High hood diesels dragging long chains of hopppers.

Neet Budd ad as well. makes me want to run out and order one [tup] Interesting how the car manufactirers had to take out magazine adds to entice the railway barons. Streetcar manufacturers did the same though.

Pete Wonderfully appropriate story thank’s for sharing.[tup]

CM3 Loved your train consist follow up. Truly wonderful bit ‘o’ research. [tup]. Toronto has three cars in their classic collection. Two PCC’s and one small Witt 2766. They will charter out the cars to groups, and once in a while in the summer they will run all three in regular service on the harbour front line. Our museum’s mechanical department helps them keep the Witt running. It recieved an entire new underframe two years ago as the rear truck bolster was comming up through the floor. The car is now essentially brand new. We figure it should last another 80 years !!!

Russel Nice costume.[:O] Did you don this to scare off the kids[?] More left over treats for you that way I suppose. [swg]. Yes that Michigan Central depot is immence. I’m glad that it’s being retained for new usages. Most of the St Thomas rail facilities are gone. At one point it was a very major rail hub. Both CN and CP, the NYC/MC combo, Pere Marquette ( later C&O ) and the electrified L&PS all served this

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Good morning all, Tom, I got here early to get the place back in order. Just a wisk broom and dust pan did nicely. Ahh, a cup of green tea and a couple of crumpets should sate my breakfast apetite this Tuesday a.m. Pete, CM3, Rob, Russell, Dave and, of course the Boss, surely appreciate your participation, thanks.[^] Oh, CM3 yes, those “Cookers” can be dangerous allright.[:O] As to the Wednesday model rring feature, to my knowledge, “nostalgia” is always wecomed at “Our” Place. If not, I’m sure we will hear of it presently.

BTW, Tom, what is this “arrived late” nonesnse? Check out page 151, wherest I “checked in” quite early. The “hasty retreat” is logged in a 8:15 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, a full hour and 15 minutes after the appointed closing at 7:00 p.m.“Easter Standard Time!” At the top of page 152, it occured to me I was “whipping a dead horse.!”[xx(] So what do you want, “blood from a turnip?”[banghead]

I need to get a early start on the HO today so, by your leave, I’ll continue with my efforts along more rewarding endeavors.[tup] So long, till then.[:D]

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TUESDAY’S INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

G’day Guys! What a rainy day yesterday was, sure put a damper on the night’s activities for the “Trick or Treaters.” Well, we’ve got all kinds of treats in The Mentor Village Bakery pastry case, along with lots of hot, freshly brewed coffee and of course the breakfasts listed on the Menu Board. So, what’s stoppin’ ya [?]

Info for the Day:

(1) The Selection Committee for the Order of the Stools will release the results of their October tomorrow. Watch for it!

(2) Wednesday’s are for those engaged in the model railroad hobby, along with any other aspect of railroading that falls into the hobby category to showcase what you have done, are doing or are planning to do. That just about covers it, eh [?] We’re really lookin’ for track diagrams, but if all else fails, an overall photo (pix) of one’s layout will be fine. Just save the photo spread for our Sunday Photo Posting Day!. We call Wednesday, Pike Perspectives Day!

(3) Thursday’s are for our Fish ‘n Chips Nite. We haven’t had a Nick’s Picks [C=:-)] in so long, I’m going to hold back on advertising that ‘til we hear from the “man” [C=:-)] himself! Dinner begins at 5 PM!

(4) Friday’s are for our Pizza Nite along with Steak ‘n Fries. [dinner] Dinner begins at 5 PM!

INDEX Mondays only!

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted:

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Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Illinois Central (IC)

Headquarters: Chicago, IL

Mileage:

1950: 4,779
1995: 2,732 (including rights)

Locomotives in 1963

Diesels: 629

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 49,226
Passenger cars: 857

Principal routes:

Chicago-New Orleans via Mattoon & Carbondale, IL, & Grenada, MS
Memphis-New Orleans via Vicksburg, MS & Baton Rouge, LA
Memphis-Jackson, MS via Greenwood, MS
Fulton, KY-Birmingham, AL
Freeport-Centralia, IL via Clinton & Vandalia
Chicago-Omaha, NE
Tara (Fort Dodge)-Sioux City, IA
Cherokee, IA-Sioux Falls, SD
Manchester-Cedar Rapids, IA
Waterloo, IA-Albert Lea, MN
Centralia, IL-Madison, WI
Gilman, IL-St. Louis
St. Louis-Du Quoin, IL
Edgewood, IL-Fulton, KY
Fulton-Louisville, KY via Paducah
Effingham, IL-Indianapolis, IN
Mattoon-Peoria, IL via Decatur
Jackson-Gulfport, MS
Meridian, MS-Shreveport, LA

Passenger trains of note:

Chickasaw (Memphis-St. Louis & Chicago)
City of Miami (Chicago & St. Louis-Miami & St. Petersburg, FL; joint with CG, ACL and FEC)
City of New Orleans (Chicago & St. Louis & Louisville-New Orleans)
Daylight (Chicago-St. Louis
Delta Express (Memphis-Vicksburg, MS)
Green Diamond (Chicago-St. Louis)
Hawkeye (Chicago-Sioux City
Iowan (Chicago-Sioux City)
Irvin S. Cobb (Louisville-New Orleans)
Kentucky Cardinal (Louisville-Memphis)
Land O’ Corn (Chicago-Waterloo, IA)
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Good Morning all

Just a quickie as I’m rolling through.

Tom thought you might be interested in my sighting of the new Renaissance Cars that were in the station in Halifax yesterday! As I know how impressed you are with them. The amusing part of it was the engines were still the FP40’s and in the rear was a good old-fashioned observation car.

I saw your Fallen Flags list. I’ll have to get some specs for you as I can think of three local ones off the top of my head.

Sydney and Louisburg
Atlantic Dominion
Inter-Colonial RR

Later everyone

Fergie

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Mornin’ Gents!

Let me get right to the acknowledgments before events of the day begin to unfold:

trolleyboy Rob Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 22:22:19

Regarding the advertisements of “the day,” consider that some of them were well before the advent of nationwide TV. Magazines and newspapers were really “it” insofar as getting the written word out. I’ve noticed in my research that the later the decades, the fewer and fewer magazine ads are to be found. For example, there are all kinds of RR ads during WWII, but I haven’t found one for the Korean, Vietnam or Gulf wars. There very well may be some, but not in the resources I’m using.

You win (also!) Your breakdown of the Characters aboard the Halloween Train “work” too! [tup] [swg]

Looks like Boris and Tex have made it through the night! Your gift was very appropriate and already in use …… [tup]

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 01 Nov 2005, 04:54:10

Given the reduced numbers at the bar lately, yesterday’s event was well attended. Pete surely came up with the “best in show,” and Russell “dressed up” for the occasion! CM3 gets recognition for the most innovative use of RR names, Erie! You, Sir, may want to take a trip upstairs, dip your hand into the tub o’ cash, and draw out your “overtime” pay. [swg] Me [?] Heck, just goes with the territory – I’m ALWAYS here.

Looks like some sensitivities have been tweaked! No attendance records being maintained ‘round here. Banter is all part of the game. Guess I’ve been told, eh[?] Enjoy your hobby! [tup]

Fergmiester Fergie Posted: 01 Nov 2005, 06:36:45

Hi Fergie! Nice seein’ ya over here. [yeah] Those VIA Rail “Renaissance” cars surely should have something other than F40PH’s at the head end. Also, the idea of the Budd observation domes (Park C

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Good Morning All: Coffee, please; round for the house and $for the jukebox. Emmylou Harris this a.m. She’ll be in Charleston soon. Lovely fall day today; a little frost, and gas is $2.39/gal.

I went to the Post Office this a.m. and the box was full of catalogs which sne me to the noteboosk. Hope it ties in with model rr Wednesday.

The catalogs come in November, just as they have for years. The catalogs are books that deserve serious study. The catalogs mean that Christmas is coming. The Lionel catalog is the one that gets the most attention. Its glossy pages contain enough railroad-related material to satisfy Commodore Vanderbilt and all of his vest-wearing, watch chained, cigar-smoking lackeys.

Look, here’s a Pennsylvania Railroad steam turbine. On the next page is a Tuscan red GG1 electric with a set of Pennsy passenger cars. My father tells me that they look just like the ones he rides to Washington. I want to go to Washington, too, and see the “Congressional Limited” as it passes along the tidal basin by the cherry blossoms – at least it does in the catalog.

Here’s a GP7 in red, black, and silver from the Burlington Route set against a generic picture of the heartland. Turn the page and there’s some EMD switchers decorated for the Seaboard Air Line and for the Central Railroad of New Jersey. My, what we could do with a set of those. Then there are lovely F units in Santa Fe red and silver war bonnet paint and on the next page a pair of Fs for the New York Central. You can get freight or passenger sets with these.

Right after that is a monstrous FM Trainmaster lettered for the fearsome, far away, Virginian.

Toward the back of the book is page after page of freight cars of all types. Then there are pages of passenger cars. The very back has track, accessories, and transformers big enough to power a small city. It’s pretty simple: we want it all. And why not? Christmas is, after all, a time of renewed ho

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The City of New Orleans
by Steve Goodman

Riding on the City of New Orleans,
Illinois Central Monday morning rail
Fifteen cars and fifteen restless riders,
Three conductors and twenty-five sacks of mail.
All along the southbound odyssey
The train pulls out at Kankakee
Rolls along past houses, farms and fields.
Passin’ trains that have no names,
Freight yards full of old black men
And the graveyards of the rusted automobiles.

CHORUS:
Good morning America how are you?
Don’t you know me I’m your native son,
I’m the train they call The City of New Orleans,
I’ll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done.

Dealin’ card games with the old men in the club car.
Penny a point ain’t no one keepin’ score.
Pass the paper bag that holds the bottle
Feel the wheels rumblin’ ‘neath the floor.
And the sons of pullman porters
And the sons of engineers
Ride their father’s magic carpets made of steel.
Mothers with their babes asleep,
Are rockin’ to the gentle beat
And the rhythm of the rails is all they feel.

CHORUS

Nighttime on The City of New Orleans,
Changing cars in Memphis, Tennessee.
Half way home, we’ll be there by morning
Through the Mississippi darkness
Rolling down to the sea.
And all the towns and people seem
To fade into a bad dream
And the steel rails still ain’t heard the news.
The conductor sings his song again,
The passengers will please refrain
This train’s got the disappearing railroad blues.

Good night, America, how are you?
Don’t you know me I’m your native son,
I’m the train they call The City of New Orleans,
I’ll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done.