I am with Mookie, you have to admire a man who can put spiritual perspective and practical perspective in one consciece thought and reflect upon it by having a beer at 1:30 in the afternoon.
I would join you Wabash, were I not at work. Way to sum things up.
Gabe
…Ah, the mention of Railroad magazine…It was great. Real down to earth tails and stories of real railroaders. I do have some old copies {1944}.
Beer, ah beer. This is the appropriate thread for this story:
About 20 years ago I was traveling in Germany on business. I went to the dining car for breakfast and the waiter without my asking pointed out in the menu what was Kosher. I asked him where he got his fine American accented English, and he told me it was in a USA prisoner of war camp during WWII. He said he was well treated and that was one reason he tries to treat everyone he meets well.
A German sat across from me. He was an electrical engineering with the Deutches Bundesbahn. So we discussed trains. He ordered breakfast and beer. He offered to give me some beer, but I declined, saying I had to keep a sharp head for some meetings that day, and would prefer to postpone beer until the evening. He said “Ach! Beer in the morning! Put’s a golden glow on the whole day!” I thought that my morning prayers did that for me but I said nothing about that.
When I got back to America a friend asked me where I had been, and I told him. He said “I hope you didn’t spend any money there.” I replied: “I spent the money I needed to live comfortably. The Germans I met were not the ***. They weren’t the ones that did the Holocaust. I was treated with respect wherever I was and so I returned that respect. If you want to answer the Holocaust, don’t answer it by hating anyone today. Try to be a better Jew yourself and follow all the Commandments.”
When I see a “Christian signature” I am not offended in the least. I know that is an individual that is trying to be a good person in the path to the Eternal that he has chosen, and I know he won’t object to my path and I won’t object to his. Together, we can be partners for common goals.
Some folks have included a reference to religion here and there in a thread or two, but it was always “in context” and not rammed down someone’s throat. One person includes links to faith-based websites in his signature block…that’s ok I guess…if you want to discuss that stuff further you are free to visit those other sites.
Trainluver. or whatever, if you got nothing better to do, do it some place else!!!
What a bulls**t post!!!
I am probably guilty of the charge.
I recall when the folks were killed in Southern California and South Carolina that I mentioned something about having those families in “thoughts and prayers.”
OOOPS big mistake, my bad!
ed
I thought the big band was what you heard after you eat 4 Double Bean Burittos at Taco Bell?
boy, that was immature.
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
Just lock this now, before it starts a flame war. Trainluvr was insulted by many of you in my opinion.
Dave
Gonna get my licks in before Bergie sends this topic off with a volley of Photon Torpedos
Someone asked "What was the Big Bang? when one of my cars rolled off my layout and hit the ground with a LOUD crack!!![:D]
Anyway when it comes to religion, I belong to the 24hr Drive Thru Church of Elvis…[;)]
Thank’ya Ma’am.[8D]
Seems like sentiment related to what MUST be included under the premise of free speech is played like a bad football game…all over the field.
I remember creating a humerous thread about our beloved Prez, and some whacko’s got all bent out of shape about it… Demanding that this should be a “trains only” forum, so DUE TO THAT I’d say God should be kept out of this forum, and religious energies should be directed to RELIGION FORUMS, not here.
With this being a trains forum, I can understand why people say we shouldn’t talk about religion. But I guess since we’re on the subject I may as well say what I have to say and **** people off. Bottom line is this. If I want to put a religous quote in my signature then I will. Doing something like that is not ramming anything down anyone’s throat. I have faith in God. Yea I said it. Call me a Bible thumper or whatever you will, but that’s the way I feel and nothing will ever change it. The nice thing about this country is that we can all worship as we please. worship a rock for all I care. I guess that’s about all I have to say. Smile Jesus loves you.
Railroading is a religion. Have you not read Locomotive Catechism by Grimshaw? A religion is anything that is seriously or zealously pursued.
It was never my intension to offend anyone, which was the point of my bringing the subject up in the first place, but rather to send a message to those that leave little religious comments at the bottom of their replies. I would not in any way try to interfer with anyone’s freedom of speech as so many of you have brought up, but then with a lot of you, it’s okay as long as I’m a Christian that supports the war in Iraq and all that, but if I step out of line and do the other thing or say something you don’t like, then I’m a bad guy and here you come after me.
I really like this forum, and would support it to the bitter end. All I was trying to do was make a statement about something that I felt was out of place.
To those of you that I offended, please accept my sincerest apology. As for the rest of you, I’ll be seeing you in other strings…
Now how’s about we go talk trains!.
Trainluver1
So cool the way you guys expressed yourselves in your down-to-earth replies.
You’ve kept it real and this thread took a turn for the better!
FutureModal, Wabash1, Mookie…you all are a riot! [(-D][(-D]
Thanks for helping turn this thread around!
HiIron2003ar, a special salute to you for your above post. [4:-)]
Peace and Cheers! [:D]
Trainluver1 , ya didnt mean to stir up a hornets nest but ya know the old saying about the road to hell being paved with good intentions…
Gonna weigh in here with my personal experience, one of the primary reasons I do not belong to a model RR club or participate in alot of group activities has to do with the fact that i got burned real bad earlier in my youth. I was interested in HOn30 tried to get into a narrow guage modelers club, they found out that not only was I not a member of their political party, but I wasnt a practicing member of so-and-so brand of religion and i was then Persona Non Grata at that group. It left such a bad taste I have remained a Lone Wolf modeler ever since. I still get edgy when considering any group gathering from model RRing or such. I know in a group situation its only a matter of time before the personalties in any group or club will tend to gravitate towards like minded folk, excluding the “other” from the herd, thats human nature.
Believe me when I say NOTHING good comes from discussing political or religious views on a public forum. I have decided that I would try to keep my personal religious and political viewpoints to myself (I did say, TRY) Anyway I see nothing but disagreement coming from either subject and agree with those who try to keep this stuff off the forums.
Anyway thats all, just one persons experience, Later Vic
Thanks vsmith. I appreciate your wise words, and I do hereby promise not to ever bring up such a subject on this forum ever again-so help me… I just had to get it off my chest.
My respects to one and all. You’re a great bunch of people.
“Trainluver1”
In the US everyone has a virtually limitless right to free speech but, thankfully so, a correlating right to not be offended is not offered. If this right had been given, we would have a very quite society since almost anything anyone says will offend someboby is some way.
That being said, a privately owned forum such as this one does have the ability to control content. To me, the moderators are doing a great job balancing overreaction–simply allowing this thread to continue is evidience of that.
I do not believe that I am the only one who is amazed with the paths most of the threads on this or any other forum take. One opens the thread, usually gets what is expected but also comes away with a whole lot more. And the extemporaneous info is usually the more interesting part of the topic.
Jay
Want to hear about Trains? okay, will do, I’m like a steam train. Slow to start, but by the end of my post i’ll be swinging the bat like you wouldn’t believe.
Trainluver1, That’s a really cool name, did your mommy give that to you at birth? what… It doesn’t say that on your birth certificate? that’s ashame… So, you’ll have to excuse the fact that I don’t like calling people by screen names, nor by there first name, so you are now considered Mr. Thing.
So, Mr. Thing, you don’t appreciate people talking about religion, As a character in the Great Gatsby said “'tis a shame” I’d cry for you- but thats the way life is, Freedom of speech is exactly that, Freedom, spelt F-R-E-E-D-O-M, is not only found in the dictionary (under F) it is found in various constiututions across this fair world of ours, and upheld by most countries that are part of the UN.
Just because you don’t like it- thats to bad, and won’t change it worth a damn. Here’s more “trains” for you. You
Ohh, what a bee’s nest we have gotten ourselves into as of late–I am actually missing shackles and death box cars.
But, all that aside, all I want to know is where are the beautiful women? I mean, I am married and all–so it is an accademic question–but a beautiful women who likes trains? Does she drink beer and watch football too? I need my wife to take notes.
I know of two women who post on here, but they never felt the need to inform me that they were beautiful. I feel so left out.
A poster formerly known as “Gabe.”
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QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman
Want to hear about Trains? okay, will do, I’m like a steam train. Slow to start, but by the end of my post i’ll be swinging the bat like you wouldn’t believe.
Trainluver1, That’s a really cool name, did your mommy give that to you at birth? what… It doesn’t say that on your birth certificate? that’s ashame… So, you’ll have to excuse the fact that I don’t like calling people by screen names, nor by there first name, so you are now considered Mr. Thing.
So, Mr. Thing, you don’t appreciate people talking about religion, As a character in the Great Gatsby said “'tis a shame” I’d cry for you- but thats the way life is, Freedom of speech is exactly that, Freedom, spelt F-R-E-E-D-O-M, is not only found in the dictionary (under F) it is found in various constiututions across this fair world of ours, and upheld by most countries that are part of the UN.
Just because you don’t like it- thats to bad